Comments Thread For: Froch: I Think Gennady Golovkin's Best Days Are Behind Him

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  • sterilizer
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    #71
    Evidently, Canelo and his team are waiting for GGG to get past his prime, and get really beaten by someone else other than Canelo, to make GGG lose both his confidence and winning mentality, and become more cautious and less dangerous.

    That's exactly what Mayweather Jr. did vs. Pacquiao. He waited and waited. Then, Marquez almost killed Manny. Even so, Manny was back in the game (I don't remember any other ATG top name who got nearly killed and successfully came back to fight at nearly the same level as before being brutally KO'd). BTW many people, knowledgeable people, that is, experts and commentators who aren't American and aren't related to Mayweather Jr. in any way, as in not having any vested interest in his career, did see Manny as the winner.

    So, obviously, Canelo is waiting for those two things: 1) For somebody else to inflict both physical and emotional (decreased confidence) damage to GGG. 2) For father time to do his job, so GGG becomes less strong, less accurate and less dangerous, thus an easy target for a younger, faster and possibly stronger opponent in Canelo.

    If Canelo eventually fights and defeats an over the hill and damaged GGG, he will not get credit from the boxing pundits, very deservingly so. Just like both Mayweather Jr. (in a very controversial decision) and Manny Pacquiao (in a 100% clear and dominant KO win, which was actually a beat-up from beginning to end) did vs. a past-prime De La Hoya who had already been KO'd by someone else (Hopkins) and therefore, lost his edge. Or when Canelo himself fought a way past-prime Mosley and couldn't even knock him down like Manny Pacquiao did a couple of fights before, being much smaller than Canelo. Canelo may try and show off a win over Mosley in his resume, but really who cares? Under the circumstances, he was beating a much older and way past-prime Mosley. So if a similar thing happens vs. GGG, IMO Canelo will still not be worth being considered a top-10 P4P contender. He has to defeat GGG in 2017 at the latest, provided that GGG gets past Jacobs in the 1st place (and Canelo himself gets past a skeleton of Chavez Jr. as well).
    Last edited by sterilizer; 01-28-2017, 06:54 PM.

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    • Kigali
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      #72
      Originally posted by QballLobo
      I still think that he is in his prime but father time is undefeated and we have seen many fighters seemingly get old overnight once they hit their mid 30's.
      GGG seems to take care of him self well and with the advancements in nutrition and training I think he still has a few years left of his current pace.
      Now whether or not we see him showcase those skills on the biggest state remains to be seen. His promoter seems to think the is a bigger star than he actually his. His next fight will set the market for where his is as he is carrying that promotion against Jacobs.

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      • Kigali
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        #73
        Originally posted by Reloaded
        Well he is not lying in the true sense, Im sure GGG would have been better a few yrs ago than he is now thats just nature, but he has had a very easy go of things and no wars so is very fresh for his age I feel he can fight to 40 no problems he is a young 35.
        That's why he's poised for an ass-whipping.

        GGG is not a young 35...just look at him.
        His defensive reflexes are GONE.

        Long gone...

        He even has the legs of a shot fighter.

        When a SLOW AS HELL guy like Dominic Wade,can hit you with a 4 punch combo....it's time to walk away.

        Adama is slower than Wade and he was catching GGG with LEAD RIGHTS.

        That mummy couldn't hit Stevie Wonder with a 4 piece

        400 amateur fights + 36 pro fights = washed up like a mofo.

        Watch what Jacobs does to him.

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        • The plunger man
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          #74
          Originally posted by aboutfkntime
          IF, Golovkin beats Jacobs, he will get credit for that win..... because Jacobs is a very good fighter, so that would be a very good win

          but, when =/= if..... so leave your pom-pom waving til then





          you ***-tards have worn out that excuse

          there are 15,000,000 pieces of evidence proving otherwise

          and once again..... when =/= if, you pom-pom waving muppet


          get back to me when your cool story happens
          So whats the 15.000 peices of evidence you reckon there is lol.....vacating titles when you have signed and agreed to fight golovkin is not evidence just so you know moog

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          • Reloaded
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            #75
            Originally posted by Kigali
            That's why he's poised for an ass-whipping.

            GGG is not a young 35...just look at him.
            His defensive reflexes are GONE.

            Long gone...

            He even has the legs of a shot fighter.

            When a SLOW AS HELL guy like Dominic Wade,can hit you with a 4 punch combo....it's time to walk away.

            Adama is slower than Wade and he was catching GGG with LEAD RIGHTS.

            That mummy couldn't hit Stevie Wonder with a 4 piece

            400 amateur fights + 36 pro fights = washed up like a mofo.

            Watch what Jacobs does to him.
            hmmm Im seeing it a little different but it would not surprise me either.

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              #76
              Originally posted by Reloaded
              hmmm Im seeing it a little different but it would not surprise me either.
              When GGG first hit the scene....if you tied him up,he'd damn near rip your arms off.

              Nowadays

              He's sweet as a lil kitten...he'll stand there and cuddle all night if the ref allowed it.

              He's there to be had....I'm telling you.

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                #77
                Originally posted by The plunger man
                So whats the 15.000 peices of evidence you reckon there is lol.....vacating titles when you have signed and agreed to fight golovkin is not evidence just so you know moog

                there are 15,000,000 pieces of evidence sitting on the table, and a contract that is waiting for Golovkin's signature

                ..... insinuating that canelo ducked lil'G, when lil'G can make a fortune by simply taking that fight whenever he wants it..... is ******ed

                stop fixating on bullshht, and concentrate on the win column

                your list is silly, and irrelevant..... boxrec is relevant

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                • The plunger man
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                  there are 15,000,000 pieces of evidence sitting on the table, and a contract that is waiting for Golovkin's signature

                  ..... insinuating that canelo ducked lil'G, when lil'G can make a fortune by simply taking that fight whenever he wants it..... is ******ed

                  stop fixating on bullshht, and concentrate on the win column

                  your list is silly, and irrelevant..... boxrec is relevant
                  It should and will be a split as canelo will be fighting for golovkins titles not canelos.....not silly liam smiths pony wbo title....september aint far away and lets ee what **** and bull you come up with this time if canelo backs away again...what a moog you are

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                  • The plunger man
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Reloaded
                    hmmm Im seeing it a little different but it would not surprise me either.
                    Reloaded at least your keeping it real fella....i like that about you ...green k coming

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by The plunger man
                      so moog when golovkin knocks out jacobs and makes it look like a walk in the park ...whats your next excuse gonna be ? And when canelo yet again ducks golovkin in september again what is your excuse gonna be ....yep yep we know lol.....it must really do your head knowing golovkin is the best middleweight in the world ....what a moog you are lol
                      Golovkin just this month said ''Canelo is nothing.'' Loeffler and Abel are on record on YOUTUBE from 2016 saying the ''fight'' will most likely happen in 2018 and always being optimistic and not complaining. That's not the typical approach for a crew that really wants the fight.

                      Of course Golovkin is scared of 168. 35 years bent at 160.

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