Why is that a lot of Lara fans say.....

[hhs661]

what you're missing is how frequently and how easily angulo, a fighter who boxes like his boxing boots are soaking wet, or stuck in the mud, was able to get lara to the ropes. you also seem to to think that being on the ropes for any period of time is safe for lara, which is again wrong. angulo not only got him to back up and set his feet, but he got to the body and slowed him down. he did this without much of a jab to speak of, very little head movement, just an all around poorer game than golovkin's.

couple in golovkin's accuracy, power and it's not going to be a shock to any of us when lara is a major dog, and picked to lose via knockout to most of the pundits.


heck, freddy hernandez and vanes have both had lara on the ropes and have gotten to his body. one exchange like that in the golovkin fight and lara will be a completely different fighter.


you need to go back and watch the fight if you think lara was just caught twice. he was systematically placed there, broken down with body shots that dropped his hands, and he was dropped hard by a past prime guy who literally does nothing better than golovkin and who hardly has a jab. golovkin does a european thing where he waves the jab / lead hand in front of you to control your body. then he drops the jab or hooks off of the jab if you're heading to his left, and he can put the right hand behind it if you head to the right. the only real option is to fire back with a combination or step back. lara does the latter every time, ends up on the ropes, and eventually ends up on his back.


5-7 rounds. no more. probably less.

I know compubox(and I hate using these stats) isn't the end all when it comes to discussing a fight. With that, according to them... Angulo landed 20% of his shots in comparison to 42% for Lara. Lara doubled up on him. I'm not missing much with Lara-GGG. I, like many on here understand and know GGG is a different animal. If I'm able to figure that out, don't you think Lara would be able to do so as well? Angulo was throwing over 70 punches per round.. I don't think GGG comes close to that. Again, I'd have to look at his compubox numbers, but I could easily be wrong in that assessment.




I just find it crazy to think that people(NOT SAYING YOU BECAUSE I HONESTLY HAVE NOT READ 1 OF YOUR POSTS REGARDING THESE TWO BEFORE THIS THREAD) that Lara won't be throwing anything back at GGG. Lara is one of the best counter punchers in his division. He's one of the best in the game at that period. So Lara got dropped... OK.. He made this guy turn his back during the round and quit. Surely that had a lot to do w/ the counter lefts, the power and the accuracy that Angulo got put on him by Lara.

Angulo did not systematically do much in this fight. If anyone was systematically broken, it was the guy that knew he was defeated. How this is even a discussion is beyond me. Matter of fact, you and I can re-watch this and re-score it. Goodness, GGG is not a flawless fighter, the dude was getting countered, beaten to the punch and lost a couple rounds to a smaller, less powerful fighter in Brook.


I don't even like bringing up those fights because of the simple fact that styles make fights. Again, I think Lara has a far greater chance than most fighters at 154 or 160 with GGG. Will he defeat him? IMO, NO. Can he, of course. He has the tools and capabilities of doing so. GGG was getting hit a lot more than Lara was when he faced off against Brook

[soul_survivor]

That Lara's style is going to be the kryptonite of GGG?

Literally GGG wants runners so that he could chase around in the ring, cut their escape point in the corner and attack them with carefully placed shots in the body and head and end them.

It has been known that it's better to fight back against GGG with combos rather than 1-2 run, 1-2 run. So why still hold on the delusion that Lara's style beats GGG's?

Because Lara has been so successful against punchers and never gets hit with anything solid...oh wait, sorry, I was living in alternate reality land. This is the same Lara who almost got killed by the slowest version of a normally slow Angulo I have ever seen.

[garfios]

Exactly! Angulo was cutting off the ring on lara and drilling body shots. GGG is better at every facet of boxing than angulo. Oh and if GGG KO'd lara he wouldnt get credit theyll just say he beat up a 154lber

you do know that ring size and mat can make a difference? I read all the time that angulo put Lara on the mat, and this and that, but everyone of you guys forget to mention the ring size that night, which was the smallest they delahoya could find, the mat was a memory foam and the fact that Lara had a rehydration verbal clause and perro didn't, smell like "I don't want you to come out of this on top", why don't you guys mention all the facts? maidana and perro were there to win those fights, period, that was the last hurrah for angulo, he won two rounds only, because the two knockdowns, and both times Lara put up a clinic, to the point that he just quit, I get that you like the guy, am Cuban and I don't like him much, I'll root for him though, please don't just hate, remember there is always a new fan reading this crap, inform a little and hope for the best fighting the best, no matter the style, country or skin color, I don't say race because we all belongs to only one...

[KingHippo]

I don't think that Lara beats Golovkin, I just think it's a better fight than Lemieux, Murray, Willie Monroe or Kell Brook.

[KingHippo]

what you're missing is how frequently and how easily angulo, a fighter who boxes like his boxing boots are soaking wet, or stuck in the mud, was able to get lara to the ropes. you also seem to to think that being on the ropes for any period of time is safe for lara, which is again wrong. angulo not only got him to back up and set his feet, but he got to the body and slowed him down. he did this without much of a jab to speak of, very little head movement, just an all around poorer game than golovkin's.

couple in golovkin's accuracy, power and it's not going to be a shock to any of us when lara is a major dog, and picked to lose via knockout to most of the pundits.


heck, freddy hernandez and vanes have both had lara on the ropes and have gotten to his body. one exchange like that in the golovkin fight and lara will be a completely different fighter.


you need to go back and watch the fight if you think lara was just caught twice. he was systematically placed there, broken down with body shots that dropped his hands, and he was dropped hard by a past prime guy who literally does nothing better than golovkin and who hardly has a jab. golovkin does a european thing where he waves the jab / lead hand in front of you to control your body. then he drops the jab or hooks off of the jab if you're heading to his left, and he can put the right hand behind it if you head to the right. the only real option is to fire back with a combination or step back. lara does the latter every time, ends up on the ropes, and eventually ends up on his back.


5-7 rounds. no more. probably less.

Angulo didn't get him to the ropes, Lara was taking him there. He was in full control of the fight.

[BendOver]

Angulo didn't get him to the ropes, Lara was taking him there. He was in full control of the fight.

agreed 100%, haven't seen anyone pushing Lara against the rope, and againg the ring size had a lot to do with that...

[Lester Tutor]

Lara's got nothing on the speed and Footwork of Murray. Murray is levels above Lara in ring generalship! In fact Lara got nothing on Rubio's footwork!

[aldo5408]

because they're haters. they do this to a shrine with floyd mayweather's jockstrap


lara fought poor man's golovkin and ended up on the ropes. alfredo angulo has less power, no jab, he's slow as hell, smaller, less chin, less technical, follows instead of cutting off the ring.


styles make fights, and people don't really understand what that means. usually they just think the styles that are closer to the fighters they felate are most effective. in reality, styles making fights means that golovkin will fight most effectively coming forward, and that he's actually goingto have the most problems with fast handed fighters who will take the fight to him and have the power to back him up.

what's golokvin's weakness? it's not skill! it's that he's easy to hit because he's so offensive. so you hit him! you move A BIT, and then you hit him again! when you move it should be to the side. you fight in the middle of the ring! you don't run to the ropes! that allows him to set up his power and knock you senseless! watch the angulo - lara fight! and then watch it again!


styles make fights. it legitimately took me 10 years of watching boxing closely to get an idea of what a fight will look like when two fighters get in there. 95+% of you just aren't there yet.

He still hit angilo accurately even to force him to quit. And it was a small as ring but since you're the 2nd biggest gg dicckrider you cant see it

[Larry the boss]

That Lara's style is going to be the kryptonite of GGG?

Literally GGG wants runners so that he could chase around in the ring, cut their escape point in the corner and attack them with carefully placed shots in the body and head and end them.

It has been known that it's better to fight back against GGG with combos rather than 1-2 run, 1-2 run. So why still hold on the delusion that Lara's style beats GGG's?

Lara has ALOT OF FANS?????

[al-Xander]

Yawn.......