Comments Thread For: Tony Yoka Pumped To Go Pro With Richard Schaefer, Virgil Hunter

[yngwie]

Yoka won't be the new AJ, his style is completly different. I don't think he deserved the gold at the Olympics, he was getting a beating all fight.he's also been knocked out cold in the ams, not just a knock down and ref stoppage, fully Ko'd

That being said he's big, has the physique to be hyped by casuals and had a good amateur career. From what i've seen he can be a bit of a heel too so could end up calling people out and getting some interest that way.

Anthony Joshua arguably lost 3 of his 4 fights in London.
BTW, did you know that Rid**** Bowe, Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis, Muhammad Ali and Vitali Klitschko were all knocked out in the amateurs?. Yoka was knocked out by Erislandy Savon, the guy who arguably beat Joshua and is one of the top 10 hardest punchers in the amateurs.

[kiDynamite92]

yoka, just like AJ, wasn't really known for his power in the amateurs...

I wonder if he's magically going to get earth shattering powers now that he's gone pro like AJ did.

[Eff Pandas]

When I say conlan will move fast, I meant his stardom And ability to sell himself and get networks to pay to televise him.

I don't even see that. He can be HUGE in Ireland, but there isn't a lot for him to carve out in the US. First off he's a lil guy so thats a huge strike against him in the US. He doesn't have the gold & amateur record Loma had. And he's obviously an Irish kid while likely being promoted mostly in the US which is still pretty xenophobic with only Manny & Lennox really garnering much mainstream attention as "foreigners". He's no Conor McGregor. He is white, he does speak English, but I don't believe that gets him any further than headlining some cards in Boston.

Conlan had been better off signing with Eddie Hearn in the UK which is a easier region to build up lil guys who can fight via a loyal fanbase or some Irish promoter. He'd have gotten to his ceiling, whatever that happens to be, quicker & reach a greater audience overall outside the US than he'll have happen in the US.

[AddiX]

I don't even see that. He can be HUGE in Ireland, but there isn't a lot for him to carve out in the US. First off he's a lil guy so thats a huge strike against him in the US. He doesn't have the gold & amateur record Loma had. And he's obviously an Irish kid while likely being promoted mostly in the US which is still pretty xenophobic with only Manny & Lennox really garnering much mainstream attention as "foreigners". He's no Conor McGregor. He is white, he does speak English, but I don't believe that gets him any further than headlining some cards in Boston.

Conlan had been better off signing with Eddie Hearn in the UK which is a easier region to build up lil guys who can fight via a loyal fanbase or some Irish promoter. He'd have gotten to his ceiling, whatever that happens to be, quicker & reach a greater audience overall outside the US than he'll have happen in the US.

His pro debut is headlining at the msg theater. He's already a bigger star than 99% of the sport.

[NEETzsche]

Conlan had been better off signing with Eddie Hearn in the UK which is a easier region to build up lil guys who can fight via a loyal fanbase or some Irish promoter. He'd have gotten to his ceiling, whatever that happens to be, quicker & rich a greater audience overall outside the US than he'll have happen in the US.

I had been hoping he'd sign with Cyclone Promotions, the McGuigans' outfit, who could have built him up on Frampton undercards and Channel 5 (free TV) shows. And as a smaller company, they should be willing to work with any other channel or promotional company in pursuit of good fights and the best deals

[Eff Pandas]

His pro debut is headlining at the msg theater. He's already a bigger star than 99% of the sport.

Lotsa Olympians get featured bouts on big cards and/or at important venues. Thats pretty much par for the course. Most Olympians ARE bigger stars than 99% of the sport. That doesn't change the fact he's a lil foreign guy in the US and those two things together have rough road to real stardom in boxing.

That said the situation is what is at this point and if I'm Arum and am legit trying to make Conlan a star I'm piggybacking off of everything McGregor related I can, I'm sending him off to Ireland whenever possible and putting together some solid Boston cards where I'd feature Conlan and eventually have him main eventing.

[AddiX]

Lotsa Olympians get featured bouts on big cards and/or at important venues. Thats pretty much par for the course. Most Olympians ARE bigger stars than 99% of the sport. That doesn't change the fact he's a lil foreign guy in the US and those two things together have rough road to real stardom in boxing.

That said the situation is what is at this point and if I'm Arum and am legit trying to make Conlan a star I'm piggybacking off of everything McGregor related I can, I'm sending him off to Ireland whenever possible and putting together some solid Boston cards where I'd feature Conlan and eventually have him main eventing.

Arum has already shown he can make stars out of loma and that Chinese Olympian instantly, and neither of those guys ever had the star potential conlan does.

But conlan being Irish he has a traveling fan base and an established fan base in the U.S. Already. He's easily the biggest up and coming american boxing star this sport has.

Arum also has shakur who will get build up along side with conlan.

[Eff Pandas]

Arum has already shown he can make stars out of loma and that Chinese Olympian instantly, and neither of those guys ever had the star potential conlan does.

But conlan being Irish he has a traveling fan base and an established fan base in the U.S. Already. He's easily the biggest up and coming american boxing star this sport has.

Arum also has shakur who will get build up along side with conlan.

Is Loma realllly a star? I feel like if they did a Loma PPV it'd make GGG's PPV numbers look Mannyish or Floydish in comparison.

And idk if he made Shiming a star so much as Shiming was already a star with his greatest boxer in Chinese history status he came with when Arum signed him. And Shiming hasn't become a US star and I see nothing that suggests he ever can become one.

And lmfao at "He's easily the biggest up and coming american boxing star this sport has". That's borderline insane to suggest.

What exactly has Conlan done that makes him such a outlier as a Olympian about to make his pro debut? Flip off some judges? Idk that that gets him very far.

[AddiX]

Loma isn't a superstar but he's a boxing star.

And none of these other guys are sellable to the American media and public.

Conlan is going to be a media and fan Favorite. Conlan is marketable unlike most boxers, and in today's sporting landscape that's what matters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myxxxwSVVDI&sns=em

Is Loma realllly a star? I feel like if they did a Loma PPV it'd make GGG's PPV numbers look Mannyish or Floydish in comparison.

And idk if he made Shiming a star so much as Shiming was already a star with his greatest boxer in Chinese history status he came with when Arum signed him. And Shiming hasn't become a US star and I see nothing that suggests he ever can become one.

And lmfao at "He's easily the biggest up and coming american boxing star this sport has". That's borderline insane to suggest.

What exactly has Conlan done that makes him such a outlier as a Olympian about to make his pro debut? Flip off some judges? Idk that that gets him very far.

[Poppo168]

Arum has already shown he can make stars out of loma and that Chinese Olympian instantly, and neither of those guys ever had the star potential conlan does.

But conlan being Irish he has a traveling fan base and an established fan base in the U.S. Already. He's easily the biggest up and coming american boxing star this sport has.

Arum also has shakur who will get build up along side with conlan.

"Easily the biggest up and coming AMERICAN boxing star that this sport has"

Well he's Irish, not American.. So that's your statement over.