Comments Thread For: Pacquiao: In The Eyes of The People - I Beat Floyd Mayweather

[travestyny]

Ward and Kovalev held ... took away from the action. I do not like that no matter who does it. but in that fight it was more even in that dept.

Looked to me like Kovalev was doing most of the holding, but not many were on his back about it.


Ok, so regarding May/Pac...and regardless of the IV and the shoulder and all of the other crap that happened, who do you think won the fight? That's the topic...just wanted to know your opinion. I'm pretty much done with everything else and ready to finally move on past all of this shlt, which we should haven moved past a longggg time ago.

[ADP02]

What about slightly dehydrated at the time of test #2. How much did he hydrated if he was slightly dehydrated at the time of test #2. That's the point, man.

Look how you are now squirming saying it might have been only 20 minutes before test #2 that he was hydrating. HE WAS STILL SLIGHTLY DEHYDRATED AT THE TIME OF THE TEST. WE HAVE THE DATA, AND I'VE BEEN TELLING YOU THIS FOR WEEKS BUT YOU JUST KEEP GOING WITH YOUR DELUSIONAL RANTS.

Let it go!

Squirming? Nope. So now lets stop here for a second.

Are you accepting that in 1 hour Diaz can rehydrate himself if subject F was able to go from severely dehydrated to very diluted?

[ADP02]

Looked to me like Kovalev was doing most of the holding, but not many were on his back about it.


Ok, so regarding May/Pac...and regardless of the IV and the shoulder and all of the other crap that happened, who do you think won the fight? That's the topic...just wanted to know your opinion. I'm pretty much done with everything else and ready to finally move on past all of this shlt, which we should haven moved past a longggg time ago.

Objectively, it was a 7-5, 6-6 type fight but I have not seen it in a very long time.

I analyzed round 3 and it's quite clear that Manny should have gotten that one. Round 2 as well according to Lederman's score as well .... and there were a few other ones that I cannot recall now that could have or should have gone to Manny.

Some of those rounds were close .... but Manny was the aggressor and did more but that is not to say that Floyd didn't win his share of rounds. I just didn't like that the ref let Floyd dictate the pace of the fight with all the holding and headlocks and turning his body away so that the opponent cannot punch legally. They all happened and we have pictures and videos and gifs to prove all of that.

Kenny Bayless gives strong warnings to Floyd that next time its a point deduction, the pace of the fight would be better and more exciting. Manny would have done better offensively ... If Floyd was able to defend on an even playing field, cool but not what he was doing that night.

[travestyny]

Squirming? Nope. So now lets stop here for a second.

Are you accepting that in 1 hour Diaz can rehydrate himself if subject F was able to go from severely dehydrated to very diluted?

Rehydrate to what degree? That's the MRO's point.

You are not completely grasping what the MRO is telling you. He is saying that it would take a massive amount of water, enough to cause severe hyponatremia, if Diaz was to dilute 733ng to 61ng in a period of 1 hour and 17 minutes.

This is where you say, well the reliable number is actually >300ng.

In actuality, the reliable number is CERTAINLY WELL ABOVE 300NG. No, 301ng is not certainly well above 300ng. We also know that the result could have been higher than 733ng. However, the GC/MS machine did put out this number and I can't imagine that what is meant is that the machine that accurate can be way off. It is, from everything I can find, a very accurate machine.

So since we don't know if it is higher or lower than 733ng, and since the machine put out this number, it seems fair to think of this as roughly 733ng. As the anti-doping agent said, there is no scientific medical explanation for a man to go from 49ng to 733ng and back to 61ng in this period of time.

You are trying to prove he can hydrate significantly. What you aren't paying attention to is if he can hydrate enough to bring the machine down from 733ng to 61ng in a period of 75 minutes.

[travestyny]

Objectively, it was a 7-5, 6-6 type fight but I have not seen it in a very long time.

I analyzed round 3 and it's quite clear that Manny should have gotten that one. Round 2 as well according to Lederman's score as well .... and there were a few other ones that I cannot recall now that could have or should have gone to Manny.

Some of those rounds were close .... but Manny was the aggressor and did more but that is not to say that Floyd didn't win his share of rounds. I just didn't like that the ref let Floyd dictate the pace of the fight with all the holding and headlocks and turning his body away so that the opponent cannot punch legally. They all happened and we have pictures and videos and gifs to prove all of that.

Kenny Bayless gives strong warnings to Floyd that next time its a point deduction, the pace of the fight would be better and more exciting. Manny would have done better offensively ... If Floyd was able to defend on an even playing field, cool but not what he was doing that night.

Cool. I respect your opinion.

[just the facts]

No credible boxing judge/fan/publication has/had PAC winning this fight. HBOs most hardcore Manny ball gagger (Lampley) had Floyd winning. The most hard core Manny ball gagger on NSB (PAC-Boy) had Floyd winning. You don't hear Roach or even Arum saying PAC won. If there was even a slight doubt these two would be screaming at the top of their lungs.

Why is all this? Floyd won. Get the **** over it already.

[ADP02]

Squirming? Nope. So now lets stop here for a second.

Are you accepting that in 1 hour Diaz can rehydrate himself if subject F was able to go from severely dehydrated to very diluted?

Rehydrate to what degree? That's the MRO's point.

You are not completely grasping what the MRO is telling you. He is saying that it would take a massive amount of water, enough to cause severe hyponatremia, if Diaz was to dilute 733ng to 61ng in a period of 1 hour and 17 minutes.

This is where you say, well the reliable number is actually >300ng.

In actuality, the reliable number is CERTAINLY WELL ABOVE 300NG. No, 301ng is not certainly well above 300ng. We also know that the result could have been higher than 733ng. However, the GC/MS machine did put out this number and I can't imagine that what is meant is that the machine that accurate can be way off. It is, from everything I can find, a very accurate machine.

So since we don't know if it is higher or lower than 733ng, and since the machine put out this number, it seems fair to think of this as roughly 733ng. As the anti-doping agent said, there is no scientific medical explanation for a man to go from 49ng to 733ng and back to 61ng in this period of time.

You are trying to prove he can hydrate significantly. What you aren't paying attention to is if he can hydrate enough to bring the machine down from 733ng to 61ng in a period of 75 minutes.

To what degree? In 1 hour, Diaz can do like Subject F can go from severely dehydrated(Creatinine 340) to very hydrated(Creatinine 47).

SUBJECT F
Time 4.0 to 5,0 to 8,8
THCCOOH 49.0 to 0,0 to 6.6
Creatinine 340 to 47 to 26
Volume 134 to 222

[ADP02]

Cool. I respect your opinion.

Thanks ....

[travestyny]

To what degree? In 1 hour, Diaz can do like Subject F can go from severely dehydrated(Creatinine 340) to very hydrated(Creatinine 47).

SUBJECT F
Time 4.0 to 5,0 to 8,8
THCCOOH 49.0 to 0,0 to 6.6
Creatinine 340 to 47 to 26
Volume 134 to 222

Again, you are not taking into account how hydrated he would have to be to get the machine readout down from 733ng to 61ng.

Above you show 49ng going to 6.6ng with a creatinine that goes down to 26. We are talking about 733ng down to 61ng. BIG difference. Matter of fact, we are talking about 49ng shooting up to 733ng and back down to 61ng at a specific gravity of 1.009. Two different experts have told you....this is not medically plausible.

[ADP02]

To what degree? In 1 hour, Diaz can do like Subject F can go from severely dehydrated(Creatinine 340) to very hydrated(Creatinine 47).

SUBJECT F
Time 4.0 to 5,0 to 8,8
THCCOOH 49.0 to 0,0 to 6.6
Creatinine 340 to 47 to 26
Volume 134 to 222

Again, you are not taking into account how hydrated he would have to be to get the machine readout down from 733ng to 61ng.

Above you show 49ng going to 6.6ng with a creatinine that goes down to 26. We are talking about 733ng down to 61ng. BIG difference. Matter of fact, we are talking about 49ng shooting up to 733ng and back down to 61ng at a specific gravity of 1.009. Two different experts have told you....this is not medically plausible.

I know what you are saying. The question was do you agree with what I stated. I'm presuming that you are agreeing. Right?

What you disagree is with what you stated. Again, I understand what you are thinking.