Comments Thread For: Nate Diaz Expected To Receive Boxing License, Heading To TMT?

[BIGPOPPAPUMP]

Nate Diaz is the latest UFC star to apply for a boxing license, according to MMA reporter Brett Okamoto. Last fall, UFC champion Conor McGregor - who is arguably the biggest star of the company - applied for a boxing license in California and Nevada. He was approved in California, but he was denied in Nevada - because of an outstanding fine for a press conference confrontation with Diaz last August.
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[KillaCamNZ]

Hahaha, where Conor goes, Nate follows.

Clearly he's not finished spit-shining Conor's pork sword yet. After all, Conor made him.

[OctoberRed]

I saw this coming the minute Nate and Floyd were talking on Skype

[M Bison]

Conor Vs Nate in a boxing rules match would definitely be great to watch.

[Larry the boss]

lord have mercy...smh

[BoxingPugilist]

Not surprising. UFC stars will realize sooner or later, they can take their name recognition from UFC, parlay that into a headline boxing event, and walk with more money from a losing effort than they could make in multiple fights for the UFC. The degree to which Dana White and the UFC extort their fighters is insane. Let's take a look at UFC 200 - one of their biggest events ever...

Brock Lesnar (Their biggest draw ever before McGregor came along) - $2.5m
Mark Hunt - $700k
Anderson Silva (one of their most dominate champions of all time) - $600k
Daniel Cormier, Jose Also & Miesha Tate - $500k...if Aldo as a reigning champion had lost he would have only made $400k
Cain Velasquez (former Heavyweight Champion) - $300k
Frankie Edgar (former LW Champion) - $190k
Travis Brown - $120k

Everyone else made under $100k guaranteed...some made a little more than $100k if you factor in their "win bonuses" or "fight of the night" bonuses which the promoter arbitrarily decides based on who they personally like the most. Think about that, they have such little faith in their own fighters, that they have to incentivise them to "win" by promising to give them what is essentially the second half of their paycheck. Or they dangle a carrot out there in the form of "impress me, and I'll give you $50k" - which for a lot of guys is more than they make per fight.

Meanwhile these men and women are going out there, fighting their hearts out, getting a fan following...so that the UFC can take the lion's share of the profits. The total gate for the event was $10.7m - the total pay out to their fighters was $6,979,000 - leaving UFC with $3,721,000 gross profit BEFORE factoring in the PPV buy rates. Oh and while a lot of people use to defend UFC saying "but they can get sponsorship deals and make money" - not anymore. UFC has to approve any UFC fighter from appearing in any commercial, or promotional material. Some fighters aren't allowed to promote their OWN products. And THEN, UFC demanded fighters couldn't put ads on their shorts anymore...cutting their value as a spokesperson drastically.

Nate Diaz has name value, and at 31 is likely looking to make the kind of money he'd feel comfortable retiring on. His brother Nick is probably the better boxer, but that is almost irrelevant. The point is this guy is seeing numbers like $15m and $25m being thrown around for McGregor and he's likely thinking, if he could get even a fraction of that, make some money doing promotional deals leading up to the fight, it could be much more profitable than his biggest pay day EVER which was $2m to rematch UFC's golden child McGregor.

...even if he doesn't make a lot of money from boxing, he can still use it as a bargaining chip against the UFC to demand they pay him more - you know - something CLOSE to fair...

[pacmanis1]

Diaz has a really good striking game, however he's gunna find out the hard way that striking in MMA and boxing are worlds apart.

[M Bison]

Not surprising. UFC stars will realize sooner or later, they can take their name recognition from UFC, parlay that into a headline boxing event, and walk with more money from a losing effort than they could make in multiple fights for the UFC. The degree to which Dana White and the UFC extort their fighters is insane. Let's take a look at UFC 200 - one of their biggest events ever...

Brock Lesnar (Their biggest draw ever before McGregor came along) - $2.5m
Mark Hunt - $700k
Anderson Silva (one of their most dominate champions of all time) - $600k
Daniel Cormier, Jose Also & Miesha Tate - $500k...if Aldo as a reigning champion had lost he would have only made $400k
Cain Velasquez (former Heavyweight Champion) - $300k
Frankie Edgar (former LW Champion) - $190k
Travis Brown - $120k

Everyone else made under $100k guaranteed...some made a little more than $100k if you factor in their "win bonuses" or "fight of the night" bonuses which the promoter arbitrarily decides based on who they personally like the most. Think about that, they have such little faith in their own fighters, that they have to incentivise them to "win" by promising to give them what is essentially the second half of their paycheck. Or they dangle a carrot out there in the form of "impress me, and I'll give you $50k" - which for a lot of guys is more than they make per fight.

Meanwhile these men and women are going out there, fighting their hearts out, getting a fan following...so that the UFC can take the lion's share of the profits. The total gate for the event was $10.7m - the total pay out to their fighters was $6,979,000 - leaving UFC with $3,721,000 gross profit BEFORE factoring in the PPV buy rates. Oh and while a lot of people use to defend UFC saying "but they can get sponsorship deals and make money" - not anymore. UFC has to approve any UFC fighter from appearing in any commercial, or promotional material. Some fighters aren't allowed to promote their OWN products. And THEN, UFC demanded fighters couldn't put ads on their shorts anymore...cutting their value as a spokesperson drastically.

Nate Diaz has name value, and at 31 is likely looking to make the kind of money he'd feel comfortable retiring on. His brother Nick is probably the better boxer, but that is almost irrelevant. The point is this guy is seeing numbers like $15m and $25m being thrown around for McGregor and he's likely thinking, if he could get even a fraction of that, make some money doing promotional deals leading up to the fight, it could be much more profitable than his biggest pay day EVER which was $2m to rematch UFC's golden child McGregor.

...even if he doesn't make a lot of money from boxing, he can still use it as a bargaining chip against the UFC to demand they pay him more - you know - something CLOSE to fair...

UFC is still paying athletes good cash, If It was equaling the ****** payout boxing gives to unknown quan****** then UFC would likely have many **** fight cards because they'd need to take into consideration how much this guy and that guy get paid for having to fight on that card.

Boxing has too many greedy athletes, I hope UFC doesn't reach the same height of greed that boxing has where the athletes can have the final say on who he fights that is when UFC would start dying as a sport.
Maybe using the word dying is harsh boxing has definitely lost its massive following and UFC has took over in that regard it is absolutely without a doubt in mind much bigger over in USA than boxing and there are many parties to blame for boxing becoming less relevant in USA than UFC.

[Superbee]

I liked Nate and his restless willingness to go after that McGregor joke...

[RememberTUA?]

Hahaha, where Conor goes, Nate follows.

Clearly he's not finished spit-shining Conor's pork sword yet. After all, Conor made him.

What are you saying? Connor let Nate submit him and beat on him to make him a star??, Nate Diaz made himself long before connor and his b!tch fanboys gave him the exposure he deserved, and nate had been keeping it real in the ufc for several years before McGregor showed up.