Best Welterweight Ever?

[K-DOGG]

Margarito is the best welter ever...no other welter has been feared more than him..dlh,trinidad leanord etc...people fought them to see where they stood but when it comes to margarito...people make a list of excuses not to fight him because actually fighting him means getting destroyed...

o-kay.

[ROSEWOOD]

Oh contrair. De La Hoya does count because it was a very controversial decision. Oscar lost that fight because he went into defensive mode. Tito was aggressive; but wasn't effective until Oscar quit attacking.

Hopkins outboxed and outmuscled Tito. Besides Vargas, Tito was never in a life and death struggle and when challenged by a superior boxer, he didn't have the answers. He never showed the ability to think in the ring. He had a game plan that worked against 90% of the guys he got in the ring with; but didn't have a back-up plan when things didn't go according to plan.

Top fighters Tito faced:

Whitaker....old and shopworn

De La Hoya...controversial decision

Camacho....wasn't a great fighter since facing Rosario; and was fighting above his best weight

Hopkins.....kayoed by

Wright......schooled completely


See? Tito beat a bunch of good fighters like Blocker, Campas, Carr, Camacho, & Vargas; but never really excelled against the upper tier. That's my reasoning for keeping him out of the top 10.

you make good points but you downgrade the talent pool of fighters he beat..bottom line is he has 40 plus W's...no fighter has faced only the best...Tito is a great one and will go down as a great one...just like DLH & Mosely...

[IwatchBoxing]

Who gives a **** about Trinidad, hes not the #1 Welterweight ever. I'd say top 5 or something.

[K-DOGG]

you make good points but you downgrade the talent pool of fighters he beat..bottom line is he has 40 plus W's...no fighter has faced only the best...Tito is a great one and will go down as a great one...just like DLH & Mosely...

Trinidad was the dominant Welter of his era, so, he should rank higher that DLH or Mosley; but the great ones...the ones at the top of the heap, came back from defeat. I'm not saying Tito couldn't have; but retiring after losing and not avenging his losses does not help his case, IMO.

[ROSEWOOD]

Trinidad was the dominant Welter of his era, so, he should rank higher that DLH or Mosley; but the great ones...the ones at the top of the heap, came back from defeat. I'm not saying Tito couldn't have; but retiring after losing and not avenging his losses does not help his case, IMO.

lol...thats my point playa...he never lost as a WW...come on....so how could he not be the greatest??? He lost at middleweight....he ran away with the WW crown....no challenge so he left...

[ROSEWOOD]

Who gives a **** about Trinidad, hes not the #1 Welterweight ever. I'd say top 5 or something.

I give a ****.....my vote is Tito.....bottom line!!!

[IwatchBoxing]

I give a ****.....my vote is Tito.....bottom line!!!

Say it don't spray it, you cant say Trinidads the best when the Sugar's are around.

[Easy-E]

That is the first time I have EVER heard anyone use the words 'Sugar Ray Robinson' and 'overrated' in the same sentence. Ray Robinson was the greatest hands down, and arguably the greatest fighter who ever lived.

How many fights of his have you seen?

[ROSEWOOD]

Say it don't spray it, you cant say Trinidads the best when the Sugar's are around.

lol...ok the sugars....they are somewhere up there in the top five...thats just my opinion...

[Easy-E]

lol...thats my point playa...he never lost as a WW...come on....so how could he not be the greatest??? He lost at middleweight....he ran away with the WW crown....no challenge so he left...

Thats terrible logic right there.

Sven Ottke was undefeated at super middleweight but does that mean he is the best SM ever?
HELL NO!

Its tough for me to say SRR at welter because there is no video footage of him at that weight. People are just saying this because they heard it from a boxing historian.