Best Welterweight Ever?

[hellfire508]

Ray Robinson, hands down.

[Rane-Ex54]

K-Dogg. I don't have any clue why you think Leonard, Hearns, and Hagler would just plainly Knock Tito Out. Tito has never been knocked out on the canvas for more then 10 sec. Even verse Hopkins (in the 12th round) he was up....just not looking to good. You don't have any evidence to back that up....one the other hand Hearns, Hagler, and leonard have all been on the canvas hurt....and with Tito doing the hurting, they wouldn't of had a chance, period.

[ROSEWOOD]

K-Dogg. I don't have any clue why you think Leonard, Hearns, and Hagler would just plainly Knock Tito Out. Tito has never been knocked out on the canvas for more then 10 sec. Even verse Hopkins (in the 12th round) he was up....just not looking to good. You don't have any evidence to back that up....one the other hand Hearns, Hagler, and leonard have all been on the canvas hurt....and with Tito doing the hurting, they wouldn't of had a chance, period.

say playa...them boyz got pissed at me because i said he would ko all of them...i was dead serious too..

[Rane-Ex54]

say playa...them boyz got pissed at me because i said he would ko all of them...i was dead serious too..

And I'm with you man. I swear half these people don't realize what was going on in the WW division in the 90's. Tito was destroying people.

[ROSEWOOD]

"Tito was destroying people"....correcto

[Kid Canada]

And I'm with you man. I swear half these people don't realize what was going on in the WW division in the 90's. Tito was destroying people.

In the 90`s...I absoloutley agree with you. But the question is best welterweight EVER. Sugar Ray Robinson. End of discussion.

[ROSEWOOD]

In the 90`s...I absoloutley agree with you. But the question is best welterweight EVER. Sugar Ray Robinson. End of discussion.

ok...sugar ray....ok.....

[K-DOGG]

K-Dogg. I don't have any clue why you think Leonard, Hearns, and Hagler would just plainly Knock Tito Out. Tito has never been knocked out on the canvas for more then 10 sec. Even verse Hopkins (in the 12th round) he was up....just not looking to good. You don't have any evidence to back that up....one the other hand Hearns, Hagler, and leonard have all been on the canvas hurt....and with Tito doing the hurting, they wouldn't of had a chance, period.

I'll tell ya why. All three have had tougher fights and risen to the occasion. Besides the Vargas fight, Tito has never really been in a war and won....and Vargas doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as those three.

Leonard, Hagler, and Hearns showed their mettle when it counted: Leonard against Duran,Hearns, Hagler, Lalonde, and Hearns again....and to some extend Terry Norris. Hagler was determination personified; "destuction and destroy are on my mind"...and he meant that. He went to "jail" before every fight to prepare himself for the task at hand. Have you ever seen the Mugabi fight? The Beast was landed some ******-hard punches on Hagler after Marvin was on the skids and he just ate 'em up and kept coming. Also, look at Hagler's resume sometime; specificaly the guys he fought on the way to the title. Hagler ducked no one. Tito had a champion's heart; but ultimately would have fallen apart down the stretch against these better schooled fighters who were just as determine to win as any guy who's ever lived. If Hopkins could wear out a prime Tito...Hagler would eat him alive.

Also, Tito has shown vulnerability in the early rounds; he's a slow starter. Hearns is the only one I said would stop Tito early; and that's because Tommy was a guy you couldn't afford to be hit early by. The man had dynamite in that right at 147 & 154...and occasionally at 160. If Campas can knock Tito down, Hearns could have KHTFO.

With Leonard and Hagler, the stoappages would have been more akin to the Hopkins stoppage. Both Leonard and Hagler, in their prime, were faster and more deadly punchers than B-Hopp, who was 36 when he defeated Tito...while Tito was in his prime.

That's why.

[K-DOGG]

say playa...them boyz got pissed at me because i said he would ko all of them...i was dead serious too..

I ain't pissed at cha...I just think you're misinformed and putting your heart ahead of your head.

[ROSEWOOD]

I ain't pissed at cha...I just think you're misinformed and putting your heart ahead of your head.

I dont think that is the case Dogg....we can go on forever about this old school new school stuff on who would beat who and why...thats all we got man. The old school always gets the upper on the new schoolers..these new school fighters are doing **** that old schoolers can old dream about...the boxing skills for one..old school fighters didnt do much boxing..they brawled..not all but most did..these guy today are doing it all..boxing, brawling, kicking, etc. as for the level of comp face..everyone was go back in the day nodoubt, but today a 1-19 guy can beat a 40-0 guy..hell they champs make it evident.