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  • A.K
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    #11
    you're out your mind both kov and ward would destory jack and degale, neither would probably make it a full 12 with kov either.

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    • HeadShots
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      #12
      Originally posted by A.K
      you're out your mind both kov and ward would destory jack and degale, neither would probably make it a full 12 with kov either.
      i disagree.

      Kov's punching power is overrated. he couldn't put away a 50 yr old. He couldn't put away SMW Ward and Chilemba. he does not have any 1 punch KO's.


      I actually think Jack beats Kova more times than not because he has a much tighter guard now and his body attack would ruin Kov in the later rounds. Kov has 0 inside game. Jack would be on him ripping his body. Kov was slowed down by Ward's pitiful body jabs.







      If Degale and Ward happens in UK, 10/10 Degale wins wide on points. Ward does not have good boxing skills. He is 1 handed and he relies on illegal tactics. when you take away his illegal tactics. he doesn't even have a puncher's chance.
      Last edited by HeadShots; 01-15-2017, 09:53 PM.

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      • A.K
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        #13
        Originally posted by HeadShots
        i disagree.

        Kov's punching power is overrated. he couldn't put away a 50 yr old. He couldn't put away SMW Ward and Chilemba. he does not have any 1 punch KO's.


        I actually think Jack beats Kova more times than not because he has a much tighter guard now and his body attack would ruin Kov in the later rounds. Kov has 0 inside game. Jack would be on him ripping his body. Kov was slowed down by Ward's pitiful body jabs.







        If Degale and Ward happens in UK, 10/10 Degale wins wide on points. Ward does not have good boxing skills. He is 1 handed and he relies on illegal tactics. when you take away his illegal tactics. he doesn't even have a puncher's chance.
        jack is moving up so maybe we see that but kov would put him away early, you say he has no inside game but thats not his style and no ones gave him problems on the inside yet either, his power is for real that right hand is vicious its just hard to catch bernard cleanly, even joe smith was missing like no tomorrow before he got him leaning out the ropes.

        and ward may not have the best style but its effective, hard to catch him with anything clean either, degale would be out wrestled and out jabbed for a easy ward victory.

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        • The Comic DON
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          #14
          Originally posted by HeadShots
          Incorrect.

          Both have well rounded boxing skills. Both can crack with either hand. Fighting long and short range. Offensive variety. Both have durable chins. Both are tough and enough stamina to go the full 12.




          Compared to Ward

          No right hand

          Can't crack. Not even at smw.



          Kovalev

          No stamina

          No inside game
          Wrong. Jack and Degale are vanilla and average.

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          • Holystroke3
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            #15
            The attempts to detract from Andre Ward have gotten pitiful


            And Joe Smith is not a titlist. He has the intercontinental belt not a world title

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            • JJRod
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              #16
              Originally posted by HeadShots
              The 2 best are completely flawed fighters.

              Ward is a SMW moving up to LHW who does not have a right hand. He has no power shots and his best skills are the roman greco clinch and the backwards marathon. He is someone that benefited from biased American judging system. His entire success is predicated on focusing on illegal tactics that other boxers are unprepared for; such as running into the clinch, hitting while holding and headbutts. all illegal. He's got a decent jab tho. that's it.


              Kovalev is very very limited. 4 round fighter. can only fight long range.


              The 2 SMW's that fought lastnight were more skilled. They had a variety of punches. Great defense on both sides and they both had stamina to go 12 hard rounds.

              No illegal tactics. Clean boxing skills.

              You could make a case LHW is one of the best divisions.

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              • Cutthroat
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                #17
                -Jack has been dropped 3x within the past 3 years by fighters with 50% and 41% ko ratios, SMW's.

                Uh, good luck not getting hurt against LHW's like Kovalev 81%, Beterbiev 100%, Stevenson 80%, Bivol 75%, Shabs 79%, Barrera 68%, etc.


                Degale didn't impress against Bute, Pascal beat him better, and JP has been put in his place by Kovalev, even Gonzalez arguably beat him.

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                • HeadShots
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by A.K

                  and ward may not have the best style but its effective, hard to catch him with anything clean either, degale would be out wrestled and out jabbed for a easy ward victory.
                  you seriously think Ward would be able to utilize his illegal wrestling tactics in the UK?

                  LMAO

                  he would get 1 warning for holding in round 1. 2 warnings and 3 DQ loss or

                  Ward would lose wide on the cards. He is a one handed, low volume, pillow fluffer without his greco roman wrestling.

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                  • RomanReigns
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by HeadShots
                    LHW is a division that had a titlist that was 50 damn years old. dude had multiple defences too. there idiots that say pascal is a decent fighter when he got his ass beat by this 50 yr old 2 X. just LMAO then a titlist that defended beating that 50 yr old while laying bricks full time.


                    LHW might be the most pitiful division in boxing history.
                    Middleweight Division Bro.

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                    • Pigeons
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                      #20
                      Comical...

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