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  • b00g13man
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    #41
    Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34
    Issac Clarke ehh? Your definitely not engineered for intelligence!

    I look at the 2 people who count punches thrown and landed on the computers like the judges...both aren't efficient and tend to do **** jobs!

    Need to get their eyes check or an eye exam test done before every fight!

    New blood is needed, young with a passion for the sport and to deliver it justly and swiftly and not be marooned by the money or agendas!

    Actually according to compubox they gave Pacquiao in one of the rounds only 2 landed punches while Floyd had 10+ in which that very round Floyd barely threw even 8 punches much less landed clean 4 blows while Pacquiao scored 4 landed blows!

    We all can agree that Floyd is right about these judges/compubox screwing up the sport!
    How is compubox screwing up the sport?

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      #42
      Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34
      Issac Clarke ehh? Your definitely not engineered for intelligence!

      I look at the 2 people who count punches thrown and landed on the computers like the judges...both aren't efficient and tend to do **** jobs!

      Need to get their eyes check or an eye exam test done before every fight!

      New blood is needed, young with a passion for the sport and to deliver it justly and swiftly and not be marooned by the money or agendas!

      Actually according to compubox they gave Pacquiao in one of the rounds only 2 landed punches while Floyd had 10+ in which that very round Floyd barely threw even 8 punches much less landed clean 4 blows while Pacquiao scored 4 landed blows!

      We all can agree that Floyd is right about these judges/compubox screwing up the sport!
      Compubox has no influence on the result of the fight. The real judges never see punch stat numbers. You are a moron.

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        #43
        Originally posted by deathofaclown
        I had it scored a draw. 6 rounds each. DeGale took the first 3 and then 9/10/11.

        Jack caused much more damage though and won his rounds more convincingly but they're still 10-9 rounds. Some people just remember the aggression and damaged caused and forget it's scored round by round. If we scored from emotion and getting our judgement skewed because a guy is getting beaten up then we could say Maidana won the first Mayweather fight, but he didn't because Floyd managed to just win enough rounds but Floyd took all the punishment in that fight.

        That's basically how i see this one. DeGale did win 6 rounds but if there HAD to be a winner, i'd say Jack would deserve it.
        If Jack won his rounds more convincingly then maybe they should have been scored 10-8 as opposed to 10-9.

        There should be some type of scoring mechanism to acknowledge that Badou was more effective when he won his rounds than Degale was.

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          #44
          Originally posted by A.K
          A glove punch is a BLOCK you can't score points on that..
          I assume your point is that DeGale was landing shots that Jack was bonding so should not be winning rounds but rounds are also scored on aggression and activity and no matter how many punches Jack blocks, he was not only being caught by many other punches but he was not as active in many of those rounds himself, nor was he as aggressive in 2 of the 3 championship rounds.

          Anyway, this isn't a Brit v American argument. Watching the fight without much bias (I'm not a big DeGale) he won. His work was cleaner and more effective. Jack did great o come back in the middle rounds and to finish the 12th. Not enough to win the fight.

          Plus, what was the first thing that happened when Mayweather said the fight was a robbery? The MAJORITY American fans booed so loudly that it was audible during the interview. On to pof that, they were readily chanting chunky, although a Badou chant around afterwards.

          maybe i twas in respect of degales grit and heart in the final round but it was obvious a lot of fans in attendance felt degale won...and they happened to be american.

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            #45
            Originally posted by b00g13man
            How is compubox screwing up the sport?
            Becuz it's essentially making it a game of tag instead of accuracy and effective telling damage! Compubox was never created for boxing or giving accuracy, it was for activity or for tennis in that matter!

            If fighter A throws lots of punches but hits mostly elbows and gloves while fighter B fights in spurts but lands harder shots/cleaner...does fighter A win due to activity and what his "flashy" punches look like it's doing??

            Technology by now for compubox or whatever should be by now much better after all the ****ed up fights that happened and fighters who risked their lives and sacrifices to be felt cheated due to a system that needs advancement in so many levels!

            I'm not saying it's the absolute worst and of course it's much better than it was 20- 30 years ago but by now it shoud be much better is what I'm saying!

            Those numbers tallied give people the perceptions of what certain fighters did or didn't otherwise...whats the point of even showing it in the first place!

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              #46
              Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
              Compubox has no influence on the result of the fight. The real judges never see punch stat numbers. You are a moron.
              Wow, you just proved my point ignoramus! Thanks lmao no need for further conversation!

              What do the judges at 60 years or sometimes even close to 80 years old actually "see" is my point!

              Good rebuttal champ!

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                #47
                Originally posted by soul_survivor
                I assume your point is that DeGale was landing shots that Jack was bonding so should not be winning rounds but rounds are also scored on aggression and activity and no matter how many punches Jack blocks, he was not only being caught by many other punches but he was not as active in many of those rounds himself, nor was he as aggressive in 2 of the 3 championship rounds.
                Aggression is not a scoring criteria. Effective aggression is. There's a difference.

                Activity is not a scoring criteria at all whatsoever.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34
                  Wow, you just proved my point ignoramus! Thanks lmao no need for further conversation!

                  What do the judges at 60 years or sometimes even close to 80 years old actually "see" is my point!

                  Good rebuttal champ!
                  You were talking about compubox not the official judges. You're ******ed.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34
                    Becuz it's essentially making it a game of tag instead of accuracy and effective telling damage! Compubox was never created for boxing or giving accuracy, it was for activity or for tennis in that matter!

                    If fighter A throws lots of punches but hits mostly elbows and gloves while fighter B fights in spurts but lands harder shots/cleaner...does fighter A win due to activity and what his "flashy" punches look like it's doing??

                    Technology by now for compubox or whatever should be by now much better after all the ****ed up fights that happened and fighters who risked their lives and sacrifices to be felt cheated due to a system that needs advancement in so many levels!

                    I'm not saying it's the absolute worst and of course it's much better than it was 20- 30 years ago but by now it shoud be much better is what I'm saying!

                    Those numbers tallied give people the perceptions of what certain fighters did or didn't otherwise...whats the point of even showing it in the first place!
                    OMFG. Compubox has no influence on the result of a fight.

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                      #50
                      Fights like this and Kovalev-Ward make me feel like judges should give 10-9 to close rounds and 10-8 to clear rounds. The rounds that Jack won were clearly more significant than the rounds that DeGale won, but there's no way for the current scoring system to reflect that

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