Who has a better resume, Sugar Ray Leonard or Floyd Mayweather?

[Johnwoo8686]

floyd had the longer title run but better? leonard fought 12 top 10 opponents(winning 11) to floyd's 8. i have leonard with the 3 best wins over hearns, duran, and benitez(all prime)

I'm talking about consecutive wins.

[soul_survivor]

No idea how this is still up for debate.

Leonard has the better resume, get over it.

[DinoCop]

What about Floyd's beating Canelo and Cotto?

[djtmal]

A lot of your post is using subjective opinions more than facts. A lot of the lists that have Leonard above Mayweather all time are old lists done long before Floyd fought Pacquiao. I've seen several lists that had Floyd above Leonard all time that have been done more recently. I used boxrec because it's probably the most used source on this site.

If you want to say Floyd didn't beat any all time great welterweights, fair enough, but you have to realize Floyd was slightly past prime by the time he reached welterweight and light middleweight while Leonard began his career there. So Leonard was in his absolute prime at welterweight while Floyd was not. Leonard has the better prime names at welterweight but Floyd had the better title run at that weight class and it's not even his best weight class.

Duran was a great fighter but he was not that great at the higher weight classes. We can't forget him saying 'no mas" or him getting knocked out stiff at the higher weight classes. Leonard lost to an all time great light weight not an all time great welterweight in Duran and for that he loses some points.

I get it, you likely grew up in the 80s so you hold that era dear to your heart. But don't overrate the fighters of the past just because of your nostalgic feelings.

Lol. I am not overrating s**t here. Facts is facts, and the only facts I need is Sugar Ray's TKOs over prime Hearns and prime Benitez, then wait to see if the Floyd boys can give me any prime name at any weight, any weight he fought at, that trumps Hearns and Benitez. I don't want to hear about Floyd's title runs, how many paper champs he beat, how he was out of his prime @ ww, how many Bugatti's he drives, just give me 1 name that trumps Benitez and Hearns status wise and we good to go.

[Elroy The Great]

is prime benitez really that good resume wise ?

[djtmal]

What about Floyd's beating Canelo and Cotto?

Finally, somebody offering up some names.

Cotto - good win, but I wouldn't consider Cotto an all-time great, and was already ko'd twice before Floyd fought him, which takes away tremendously

Canelo - great win for Floyd, jusy is still out in terms of all-time greatness, but if he could pull it off it would be a feather in Floyd's cap

[djtmal]

No idea how this is still up for debate.

Leonard has the better resume, get over it.

The funny s**t is, these Floyd boys, always say Floyd is TBE, Floyd can beat Sugar, has a better resume then Ali, can beat Duran and Hearns, etc. Then you ask them to give you a name on their resume to suggest he can do all this s**t, they can't do it. They start talking about 49-0, and how many paper champs he beat. Lol

[Johnwoo8686]

Lol. I am not overrating s**t here. Facts is facts, and the only facts I need is Sugar Ray's TKOs over prime Hearns and prime Benitez, then wait to see if the Floyd boys can give me any prime name at any weight, any weight he fought at, that trumps Hearns and Benitez. I don't want to hear about Floyd's title runs, how many paper champs he beat, how he was out of his prime @ ww, how many Bugatti's he drives, just give me 1 name that trumps Benitez and Hearns status wise and we good to go.

Yeah, lets just ignore everything Floyd has accomplished just to suit your argument lol. It's easy to ignore facts when they don't fit your argument.

[djtmal]

Yeah, lets just ignore everything Floyd has accomplished just to suit your argument lol. It's easy to ignore facts when they don't fit your argument.

Dude,

You said Floyd beat more champions, I said cool
You said Floyd is undefeated spanning 5 Divisions, I said cool.

You prefer Floyd having an undefeated run @ ww to B and C level paper champs past his prime (lets just call it what it is), to Srl's welter run having wins on 1 prime top ten all-time great in Hearns, 1 HOF Lineal welter in Benitez, but dropping a decision to a not so great welter in Duran even though he beat him in a rematch, I said cool

All I asked for was 1 name that Floyd beat over the 5 divisions he's fought at that ranks higher than any of Sugar's prime elite atg wins.

Crickets every f**king time.

So what the problem or the excuse now.

[Reloaded]

Dude,

You said Floyd beat more champions, I said cool
You said Floyd is undefeated spanning 5 Divisions, I said cool.

You prefer Floyd having an undefeated run @ ww to B and C level paper champs past his prime (lets just call it what it is), to Srl's welter run having wins on 1 prime top ten all-time great in Hearns, 1 HOF Lineal welter in Benitez, but dropping a decision to a not so great welter in Duran even though he beat him in a rematch, I said cool

All I asked for was 1 name that Floyd beat over the 5 divisions he's fought at that ranks higher than any of Sugar's prime elite atg wins.

Crickets every f**king time.

So what the problem or the excuse now.

Floyd doesnt have one name win that will rank as high as Hearns or Duran .

But he has wins overall that are better than Ray when looking at the entire resume .

Dont you understand a resume is body of work, its a combination of many things.

Go and look at Hector Camachos resume its better than both if you wanna talk names lol .