Who has a better resume, Sugar Ray Leonard or Floyd Mayweather?

[MurkaMan]

You're either trolling, or you're absolutely clueless.

Kindly tell us which, so we can all move on.

Floyd had a reach advantage over just about everyone he fought.

His Boxrec stats are 100% accurate.

Nah nickah YOUR trolling. Now its one thing for you to disagree with me on his reach vs Pac.

But to call me a troll on his reach against everyone else he faced? Neckro you must be kidding me? Lol Normally when I point this out to people, they shut up and realize that those stats are GREATLY wrong.

But you say Im a troll. Its NO WAY Floyd has longer arms than Ghost, who is a tall, linky, long armed giant, Canelo, who is a JUMBO man, with JUMBO body parts, and arms waaaay longer than Floyd's, and Cotto, Shane, and everyone else.

Floyd simply has NO ADVANTAGES, except skills. Its astonishing what he was able to do. This is the greatest in history, imo!

[robertzimmerman]

Floyd got those stats from Boxrec and Tail of the tape. I do not think that Floyd has measured his own reach or measured Pac's reach.

And me personally, I never paid attention to Boxrec and Tail of the Tape's stats about their height and reach. Because they always seem to be inaccurate.

Now Floyd is def taller than Pac. Maybe with Pac having longer arms, yet being shorter, Floyd has that advantage. Thats what I give you, and thats all I give you!

Yeah, I'm sure Floyd looked up his stats on Boxrec before quoting them.

Ha!

[robertzimmerman]

Nah nickah YOUR trolling. Now its one thing for you to disagree with me on his reach vs Pac.

But to call me a troll on his reach against everyone else he faced? Neckro you must be kidding me? Lol Normally when I point this out to people, they shut up and realize that those stats are GREATLY wrong.

But you say Im a troll. Its NO WAY Floyd has longer arms than Ghost, who is a tall, linky, long armed giant, Canelo, who is a JUMBO man, with JUMBO body parts, and arms waaaay longer than Floyd's, and Cotto, Shane, and everyone else.

Floyd simply has NO ADVANTAGES, except skills. Its astonishing what he was able to do. This is the greatest in history, imo!

I've had a busy day at work, and I just haven't got the patience.

Again: you're either a troll, or you're completely clueless.

The fact that you're going to argue against what Floyd himself said speaks volumes.


Guerrero has a 71" reach:

“I’m a young fighter who is 5-9, has a 71-inch reach, who attacks and is on his game,” Guerrero said. “I pose a lot of threats. It makes a lot of fighters think twice about getting in the ring with me.”

http://www.mercurynews.com/2011/04/0...re-than-ghost/

I guess he must also have looked up his own stats on boxrec.


Cotto's is 67"

Hatton's reach is 65" which meant that Floyd had a 7" reach advantage.

Floyd's reach is bigger than Gennady Golovkin's and just slightly bigger than Andre Ward's.


Having a 72" reach gave Floyd a HUGE advantage, especially at the lower weights.


If you're going to carry on being ridiculous, then please don't quote me.

[Rip Chudd]

Leonard and it's not close.

I just said this in my head, scrolled down, and it's already posted

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Best wins of Sugar Ray: Benitez, Hearns, Hagler, Duran.

Best wins of Mayweather: Dela Hoya, Hatton, Pacquiao, Corrales.

Judging by the best wins, the answer looks about as obvious as it gets.

Benitez was the youngest champion in history and had plenty of solid wins and names on his ledger. Hearns was a legend- five division champion who fought everybody. Hagler reigned as middleweight king for seven years and beat down all challengers except for Duran. You only have to say Duran's name in any boxing circle and they know who you mean.

De La Hoya is very accomplished, but I can't see him beating any of the four above on his best day. Hatton? Outside of Tzsyu, who were his notable wins?
Pac's an all time great but any of the top four handles him. Corrales, like the others, doesn't get anywhere with the four above either.

Sugar Ray had the better resume by far.

[Elroy The Great]

srl
1st 25 fights were the normal stat padding guys

may
beat a decent g hernandez in his 18th fight. i think mays bums were slightly better bums than srl's.

srl after those 25....
benitez, duran 2x, hearns, hagler (not back to back, obviously). after hagler, meh.

may after those 24....
chico, jlc 2x, zab, dlh*, jmm, cotto, canelo, pac (not in a row obviously).

* = if louis is a quality name for rocky, dlh is better for may.

people want to blindly say its srl by a landslide.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Sugar Ray Leonard has bigger wins individual, such as Marvin Hagler.

[ADP02]

Cotto was coming off wins vs Foreman, Mayorga and Margarito. .so how was he beat "previously"? if you mean three years earlier vs Pacquiao then your logic is a win is only great against an undefeated opponent.

Canelo was a zombie? one fight prior vs Austin Trout he weighed in 153.5 lbs and ballooned to 172 fight night. for Mayweather he weighed in 152 and ballooned to 165. .pretty identical numbers. where's the zombie? that boy got schooled.

Zab Judah..the last "big" fight he was in prior to Floyd was Cory Spinks rematch. which he won by TKO. and Zab gave Floyd that work the first four rounds. he made him earn that victory.

Floyd weighed pretty much the same for a decade. I'm using Floyd's own words.

Yet he required an IV because he said he was dehydrated.

Reasons:
- Gave urine
- Gave blood 10 days before
- Exercised a bit the day before to stay sharp.

Canelo on the other hand said BEFORE the fight that losing the weight to get down to 152 was the hardest thing that he had to do during all of his training camp. Imagine, that was the hardest thing during what should have been a grueling training camp.

Anyways at the time, Floyd's camp referenced the Trout fight in which they said that Canelo has a slow work rate, bad stamina, relatively little experience, fights relatively flat footed .....


Zab at 147 was not good. He has lost to:
- Baldomir the fight before Floyd
- Cotto
- Spinks (1-1).
- Clottey
- Paulie Malignaggi

[MurkaMan]

I've had a busy day at work, and I just haven't got the patience.

Again: you're either a troll, or you're completely clueless.

The fact that you're going to argue against what Floyd himself said speaks volumes.


Guerrero has a 71" reach:



http://www.mercurynews.com/2011/04/0...re-than-ghost/

I guess he must also have looked up his own stats on boxrec.


Cotto's is 67"

Hatton's reach is 65" which meant that Floyd had a 7" reach advantage.

Floyd's reach is bigger than Gennady Golovkin's and just slightly bigger than Andre Ward's.


Having a 72" reach gave Floyd a HUGE advantage, especially at the lower weights.


If you're going to carry on being ridiculous, then please don't quote me.

YES. These fighters are getting their stats from boxrec and tail of the tape. I dont know how many fighters measure themselves on a daily basis.

But lets say thats Ghost reach right? Im cool with that, whatever his reach is, its WAAAY longer than Floyd's reach!

So if his reach is 7'1, then Floyd's true reach must be about 6'5!

And HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! At you saying this silly azz mess; "Floyd's reach is longer than GGG's and Andre Ward's"

Are you out of your mind? Lol This proves my point, that those stats are incorrECT!!

You posted them to prove your point, but actually proved my point. And remember these same stats also claimed that Floyd was taller than Ghost and Canelo. Which is absurdity.

Like I said prior, I have only seen Floyd tower over Pac and JMM in recent times.

Having ZERO reach advantage over a GREAT portion of his resume, places Floyd at a DISADVANTAGE.

Just leave it alone fam. If your not going to be logical, but sit up here and argue over something like this, just go away. Dont ever say no mess about Ward and GGG having longer arms than a 135lbs fighter.

Cuz you making yaself look so crazy and ******ed.

[MurkaMan]

Yeah, I'm sure Floyd looked up his stats on Boxrec before quoting them.

Ha!

No. Floyd was most likely measured at a certain point of his career, and didnt think much of it. Then while rewatching his fights, it was just burned into his memory that his reach was whatever number it says.

Not only was he placed at a reach disadvantage, but he was also half their size. They were two times taller! Greatest in history imo!