Now that the Hype's Died Down...Honest Reflections on Ward/Kovy?

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  • club fighter
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    #11
    Props to OP for putting up his scorecard, I tossed mine out and wish I could compare it to what you scored.
    I'm one of the people that did not like the outcome of that fight but (just like the fighters) I accept that the judges make the determination.

    As far as the rematch, I strongly disagree with the folks who say "it won't matter" "the result will be the same", if you watched as much boxing as I have you will know that ANYTHING could happen in the ring. Most fighters middleweight and above have that " punchers chance", and well-planned strategies can change outcomes.

    I truly hope there is a rematch, and if Ward pulls it off again or Kov develops a different winning strategy, the proof will be in the pudding.
    Last edited by club fighter; 01-10-2017, 09:43 PM.

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    • Bjl12
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      #12
      Originally posted by Thraxox
      How is it even possible that round 12 and 10 is a swing round? Kovalev won that clearly without even debate.
      That's just my personal card. Tbh I felt Ward edged out 12 and Kovy edged out 10, but I didn't feel comfortable in saying either guy outright won it. Only the 8 rounds I scored did I think were definitive enough.

      Again just opinion regarding that

      Lederman had a different opinion and scored both 10 and 12 for Kovalev, but Kellerman and RJJ suggested Ward should've got 10. And here I am saying Kovy should've got 10 and Ward should've got 12.

      It's really up to the viewer in my mind
      Last edited by Bjl12; 01-10-2017, 09:51 PM.

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      • Bjl12
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        #13
        Originally posted by club fighter
        Props to OP for putting up his scorecard, I tossed mine out and wish I could compare it to what you scored.
        I'm one of the people that did not like the outcome of that fight but (just like the fighters) I accept that the judges make the determination.

        As far as the rematch, I strongly disagree with the folks who say "it won't matter" "the result will be the same", if you watched as much boxing as I have you will know that ANYTHING could happen in the ring. Most fighters middleweight and above have that " punchers chance", and well-planned strategies can change outcomes.

        I truly hope there is a rematch, and if Ward pulls it off again or Kov develops a different winning strategy, the proof will be in the pudding.
        Kovalev was at no point out of the fight, but those body shots wore him down a little. The point is Ward never "figured him out". They are both very live guys in a rematch. Ward has to avoid the early KD/big shots and Kovalev has to be better conditioned and guard his body better. Aside from that I wouldn't change a thing from either guy.

        Both of them beat Adonis fairly clearly in my mind

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        • Dinamita 03
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          #14
          Underwhelming performance from both guys. Didn't look like the top two fighters in the sport. Very few memorable sequences other than the kd.

          Kovalev was slightly better in my opinion. He faded a bit late and allowed Ward to win basically on activity.

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          • pacmanis1
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            #15
            I had it 1-6, and 10 for Kovalev. Not wide enough to be a robbery but I felt Kovalev was the clear victor.

            Originally posted by club fighter
            Props to OP for putting up his scorecard, I tossed mine out and wish I could compare it to what you scored.
            There's an app called JudgecardX that I use. Automatically populates with upcoming fights and saves your cards to look back on.

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            • Nightfall
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              #16
              Ward got up from the knock down and took kovalev to school simple and plain

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              • SN!PER
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                #17
                When a fight is that close, it's okay to score it a draw.

                I think that's what should've happened.

                Rematch will decide the winner.

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                • BM dnobagaV
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by g27region
                  In my opinion, there's no point in rematch because the outcome will be the same
                  Another blatant robbery for the black American? Likely.

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                  • A.K
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                    #19
                    Seen the fight 3 times and I'm not changing my mind it's clear as day

                    Round 1 - kov
                    Round 2 - kov + kd
                    Round 3 - kov
                    Round 4 - kov
                    Round 5 - ward
                    Round 6 - kov
                    Round 7 - ward
                    Round 8 - ward
                    Round 9 - ward
                    Round 10 - kov
                    Round 11 - ward
                    Round 12 - kov

                    115 - 112 Winner Kovalev

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                    • glenn mcrory
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                      #20
                      Same ****. Win for Kovalev.
                      But with the way Ward and his fanbase have reacted since, I'm fine with no rematch. They acted like they found the holy grail when he lost the first time.

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