Comments Thread For: Roach: Crawford Was Only Pacquiao Opponent Arum Mentioned

[Cinci Champ]

ya arum dont **** around tho when pac said 20 mil or else which for us seems realistic because of the past but lets be honest in this climate even 20 mil for pac and well say 7 for crawford just isnt going to happen they cant generate that much. arum probably thinking well if they not gonna be realitic well do bs fights instead.

i still find it amazing tho that arum still completely controls manny and manny doesnt really do anything about it or isnt able too. it makes u wonder what arum has on manny my guess was always he loaned manny money that hes still repaying

[Thraxox]

Let's put this in context:

March 2010, Pacquiao fights Joshua Clottey, who is coming off a loss to Miguel Cotto. May 2010, Mayweather fights Shane Mosely, who is coming off a KO victory over Antonio Margarito. November 2010, Pacquiao fights Antonio Margarito at a CW of 150. May 2011, Pacquiao fights Shane Mosely, whose coming off of a loss to Mayweather, and a draw with Sergio Mora. September 2011, Mayweather defeats Victor Ortiz for the WBC Welterweight title. June 2012, Pacquiao fights Timothy Bradley. May 2012, Mayweather beats Cotto for the WBA Super Welterweight title. December 2012, Pacquiao is nearly murdered by Juan Manuel Marquez. May 2013, Mayweather beats Guererro for the vacant Ring Welterweight title. Novemeber 2013, Pacquiao faces Brandon Rios, who is coming off a loss to Mike Alvarado at 140. September 2013, Mayweather beats Canelo Alvarez for the WBC Super Welterweight title! April 2014, Pacquiao faces Bradley again! May 2014, Mayweather beats Marcos Maidana, who is coming off a KO victory over Adrien Broner. November 2014, Pacquiao fights Chris Algieri , who is coming off a SD with Ruslan Provodnikov at 140. I think i'll just stop there!

It's funny you didn't mention Cotto was already severely damaged by the time Mayweather fought him. And you didn't mention also in the Rios fight that Manny was coming off with a knockout loss against Marquez and was only fighting him as a tune up bout to see if he can still fight at World level. It's funny you didn't Mention that Timothy Bradley was a top 3 pound for pound behind Mayweather and Andre Ward, coming off with a master class win over Marquez. It's funny you didn't mention Algerie was picked as a tune up to fight Mayweather, it's funny you didn't mention Mayweather forced Maidana to where Pillows. And it's funny how Maidana got a UD over broner but you mentioned it was a KO. It's funny Victor Ortiz was already Ko'ed by Maidana and has lost so many times against B-C level fighters, and it's funny how robert Guerrero was beaten and exposed by Salido as a B-level fighter back in featherweight and I think I would just stop there!

[WesternChamp]

what hate? its a garbage fight. Manny and Bob are taking it and I and others are expressing how mad we are about this.

Bob said Manny picks his opponents. whenever its a crap opponent, fans like you say its Bob. Whenever its a good opponent, you go back to Manny picks his opponents. Pick one and stick with it.

I am doing no such thing. Ask the fans that you think are doing this that question. Maybe they can answer it.

did i say it was a super fight?


and i;ve never done this so you can stop reaching. check my post history when it comes to this topic. i've always said that manny doesnt want to be his own boss and that he rather have bob deal with all the match making, promotion, and all manny does is show up and collect his checks.

i've even debated with you on this before on here regarding why manny doesnt become a free agent and why does he keep signing back with top rank. i gave the same answer everytime and that its prolly easier for manny this way since he doesnt have to worry about anything else except for training and getting ready for the fight.

its you and the rest of the floyd fans that likes to point the finger at bob and manny. you know pac doesnt pick his opponents, he says this everytime after his fights.

[Robbie Barrett]

It's funny you didn't mention Cotto was already severely damaged by the time Mayweather fought him. And you didn't mention also in the Rios fight that Manny was coming off with a knockout loss against Marquez and was only fighting him as a tune up bout to see if he can still fight at World level. It's funny you didn't Mention that Timothy Bradley was a top 3 pound for pound behind Mayweather and Andre Ward, coming off with a master class win over Marquez. It's funny you didn't mention Algerie was picked as a tune up to fight Mayweather, it's funny you didn't mention Mayweather forced Maidana to where Pillows. And it's funny how Maidana got a UD over broner but you mentioned it was a KO. It's funny Victor Ortiz was already Ko'ed by Maidana and has lost so many times against B-C level fighters, and it's funny how robert Guerrero was beaten and exposed by Salido as a B-level fighter back in featherweight and I think I would just stop there!

Look at Pacquiao's record and see how many fighters he fought coming off of losses in their last few fights. Mayweather fought title holders and fighters coming off big wins, Pacquiao fought guys coming off losses.

[Cinci Champ]

did i say it was a super fight?


and i;ve never done this so you can stop reaching. check my post history when it comes to this topic. i've always said that manny doesnt want to be his own boss and that he rather have bob deal with all the match making, promotion, and all manny does is show up and collect his checks.

i've even debated with you on this before on here regarding why manny doesnt become a free agent and why does he keep signing back with top rank. i gave the same answer everytime and that its prolly easier for manny this way since he doesnt have to worry about anything else except for training and getting ready for the fight.

its you and the rest of the floyd fans that likes to point the finger at bob and manny. you know pac doesnt pick his opponents, he says this everytime after his fights.

so he says but its well documented that multiple times arum has given him a few choices like last time when pac picked vargas over crawford. part of me thinks arums got something on manny or manny doesnt want to deal with it or that "manny is too dumb". at times i believe that but other times i think manny uses it as a convenient excuse to pick certain fights

[WesternChamp]

Arum picked Crawford. Pacquiao priced himself out. It's pretty fucking easy to see who's to blame.

when did arum picked crawford? can you show me? whats the date? at what weight?

arum just made a statement that manny's next fight will not be against crawford and will not be in the US, but arum picked crawford? LOL!!!!

[The Big Dunn]

Let's put this in context:

March 2010, Pacquiao fights Joshua Clottey, who is coming off a loss to Miguel Cotto. May 2010, Mayweather fights Shane Mosely, who is coming off a KO victory over Antonio Margarito. November 2010, Pacquiao fights Antonio Margarito at a CW of 150. May 2011, Pacquiao fights Shane Mosely, whose coming off of a loss to Mayweather, and a draw with Sergio Mora. September 2011, Mayweather defeats Victor Ortiz for the WBC Welterweight title. June 2012, Pacquiao fights Timothy Bradley. May 2012, Mayweather beats Cotto for the WBA Super Welterweight title. December 2012, Pacquiao is nearly murdered by Juan Manuel Marquez. May 2013, Mayweather beats Guererro for the vacant Ring Welterweight title. Novemeber 2013, Pacquiao faces Brandon Rios, who is coming off a loss to Mike Alvarado at 140. September 2013, Mayweather beats Canelo Alvarez for the WBC Super Welterweight title! April 2014, Pacquiao faces Bradley again! May 2014, Mayweather beats Marcos Maidana, who is coming off a KO victory over Adrien Broner. November 2014, Pacquiao fights Chris Algieri , who is coming off a SD with Ruslan Provodnikov at 140. I think i'll just stop there!

Bronx, he is trying to spin it because he can't refute it. I can't think of a valid reason he is doing this other than loving Manny.

Since he can't refute my point he appears to be going with the "well lets look at Floyd" pivot diversion.

Manny is trying to make sure he doesn't lose and ruin the possibility of a Floyd rematch. Nothing wrong with that.

[Robbie Barrett]

when did arum picked crawford? can you show me? whats the date? at what weight?

arum just made a statement that manny's next fight will not be against crawford and will not be in the US, but arum picked crawford? LOL!!!!

Read the damn article moron. Then read the article where Pacquiao requested $20 mil. Use some common sense and you'll come to the same conclusion.

[Thraxox]

Look at Pacquiao's record and see how many fighters he fought coming off of losses in their last few fights. Mayweather fought title holders and fighters coming off big wins, Pacquiao fought guys coming off losses.

Miguel Cotto wasn't coming off a Loss. Mosley was a fight that had to be done because there was no other fights left. And the MARQUEZ fight where Marquez was coming off of a 1 punch ko win before the third fight. And then Tim Bradley an unbeaten A-level HOF who was coming off a KO win over a faded Casamayor and whose credentials at 140 were unmatched by beating Nate Campbell, Alexander, Lamont Peterson in humiliating fashion. Rios was used as a tune up bout for him to see if he can still fight at world level after being KTFO by Marquez, whose a loss that would have damaged a fighter forever. Then Bradley again who is a top 3 pound for pound fighter at the time behind only to Floyd and Ward. And Algierie was used as a tune up for Pacquiao, but was coming off at a big win over Provo. Perhaps you didn't know what is the context in those fights, because you are too lazy.

[Thraxox]

Bronx, he is trying to spin it because he can't refute it. I can't think of a valid reason he is doing this other than loving Manny.

Since he can't refute my point he appears to be going with the "well lets look at Floyd" pivot diversion.

Manny is trying to make sure he doesn't lose and ruin the possibility of a Floyd rematch. Nothing wrong with that.

WTF are you talking about? I'm only calling you out because of calling fighters such as Margo, and Bradley "Easy fights" So I asked, if they are easy fights in the last six years what are the B-level fighters Floyd fought? I never mentioned about Crawford fight or anything, or why he is picking this fight. You didn't even understand my question.