Comments Thread For: Roach: Crawford Was Only Pacquiao Opponent Arum Mentioned

[WesternChamp]

So I said, ‘If we do fight him, we’ll fight him at 47 [welterweight]. Bring him up in weight, maybe slow him down a little bit.’ I know he does have a little bit of trouble making 40 [super lightweight], but I think he’ll be maybe not as quick and as good a fighter at 47.” - See more at: http://www.boxingscene.com/roach-cra....aYwYY5eh.dpuf

Before the Postol fight Freddie was saying PAC can still make 140 & they'll fight him there. After that Postol fight Roach has changed his tune

i've been saying this all along. no way pac is going down to 140 EVEN if he can still make it. manny is the a-side here and there is no way his team will agree to go down to 140.

[The Big Dunn]

Those easy you mentioned are Top 3 pound for pound fighter in Bradley at 2014, top 6 pound for pound fighter in Marquez in 2012 and 2011, and former top 6 pound for pound fighter in Margarito and top 3 WElterweight in Joshua clottey. If those are easy fights what do you think is Guerrero, Ortiz, Maidana? in the last 6 years of Mayweather's career?

You tried this spin before and it didn't work. I said those fights were all easier than a Floyd fight. He took them instead of risking losing to Floyd.

The same thing is happening now-Vargas and Horn (if it happens) are both easier fights than risking losing to Crawford.

You have your head so far up manny's shitter that you are acting as if I am denigrating Manny in some way when all I am doing is pointing out something that is 100% true and obvious to anyone that actually follows the sport. You are so intent on defending Manny that you making yourself look silly.

Manny is a 1st ballot HOF'er. Floyd is the only man in and around his weight class who is better than him. That is why those fights were easier than Floyd. Vargas and Horn are not on the level of Crawford. They lack his power, speed, skill, reach and boxing IQ IMO. That is why they are easier.

Did I really have to post that for you to get that point?

[ochouno]

Cherry Picking

So basically again you're admitting to not wanting to fight someone at they're best and no one picks up on it??

[Thraxox]

You tried this spin before and it didn't work. I said those fights were all easier than a Floyd fight. He took them instead of risking losing to Floyd.

The same thing is happening now-Vargas and Horn (if it happens) are both easier fights than risking losing to Crawford.

You have your head so far up manny's shitter that you are acting as if I am denigrating Manny in some way when all I am doing is pointing out something that is 100% true and obvious to anyone that actually follows the sport. You are so intent on defending Manny that you making yourself look silly.

Manny is a 1st ballot HOF'er. Floyd is the only man in and around his weight class who is better than him. That is why those fights were easier than Floyd. Vargas and Horn are not on the level of Crawford. They lack his power, speed, skill, reach and boxing IQ IMO. That is why they are easier.

Did I really have to post that for you to get that point?

I'm not saying that "these fights" are harder than Floyd. You already called Floyd out when he didn't fight Manny vice versa so that crap is gone. Yet you keep on saying "Easy" fights with fighters like Bradley and Margarito.

And I'm saying how can they be "Easy fights" In the last 6 years for manny when most of those years were his opponents where in the pound for pound. Is the standard for Manny really that high that a fighter with a caliber like Bradley would be labled as easy? You don't get it man. You call these fights "Easy" fights because they aren ot Floyd when Margarito almost killed manny in the ring that Manny had to be in the hospital for 3 days paralyzed.

With Bradley a HOF in his prime when Manny fought him. Floyd won't even risk that much.

[The Big Dunn]

I'm not saying that "these fights" are harder than Floyd. You already called Floyd out when he didn't fight Manny vice versa so that crap is gone. Yet you keep on saying "Easy" fights with fighters like Bradley and Margarito.

And I'm saying how can they be "Easy fights" In the last 6 years for manny when most of those years were his opponents where in the pound for pound. Is the standard for Manny really that high that a fighter with a caliber like Bradley would be labled as easy? You don't get it man. You call these fights "Easy" fights because they aren ot Floyd when Margarito almost killed manny in the ring that Manny had to be in the hospital for 3 days paralyzed.

With Bradley a HOF in his prime when Manny fought him. Floyd won't even risk that much.

Manny took on the easier opponent rather than facing Floyd. You keep trying to spin it to something else. I can't have a discussion with you if you continue to purposely miss represent my points because you like Manny. That is neither honest nor fair.

Manny was paralyzed for 3 days?? WTF???

If Horn puts Manny in the hospital, that still doesn't make him a better fighter or tougher opponent than Crawford.

[Bronx2245]

Those easy you mentioned are Top 3 pound for pound fighter in Bradley at 2014, top 6 pound for pound fighter in Marquez in 2012 and 2011, and former top 6 pound for pound fighter in Margarito and top 3 WElterweight in Joshua clottey. If those are easy fights what do you think is Guerrero, Ortiz, Maidana? in the last 6 years of Mayweather's career?

Let's put this in context:

March 2010, Pacquiao fights Joshua Clottey, who is coming off a loss to Miguel Cotto. May 2010, Mayweather fights Shane Mosely, who is coming off a KO victory over Antonio Margarito. November 2010, Pacquiao fights Antonio Margarito at a CW of 150. May 2011, Pacquiao fights Shane Mosely, whose coming off of a loss to Mayweather, and a draw with Sergio Mora. September 2011, Mayweather defeats Victor Ortiz for the WBC Welterweight title. June 2012, Pacquiao fights Timothy Bradley. May 2012, Mayweather beats Cotto for the WBA Super Welterweight title. December 2012, Pacquiao is nearly murdered by Juan Manuel Marquez. May 2013, Mayweather beats Guererro for the vacant Ring Welterweight title. Novemeber 2013, Pacquiao faces Brandon Rios, who is coming off a loss to Mike Alvarado at 140. September 2013, Mayweather beats Canelo Alvarez for the WBC Super Welterweight title! April 2014, Pacquiao faces Bradley again! May 2014, Mayweather beats Marcos Maidana, who is coming off a KO victory over Adrien Broner. November 2014, Pacquiao fights Chris Algieri , who is coming off a SD with Ruslan Provodnikov at 140. I think i'll just stop there!

[WesternChamp]

Look dude, take the Manny cheerleading somewhere else. If this fight happens its as much Manny's fault as it is Bob.

I grow tired of Manny's diehard fans like you switching their position just to absolve Manny of any blame. When he takes easy, crap fights, you guys blame Bob and act like Manny is some ******ed pauper that can't think for himself and is being manipulated. When he refuses to fight, you talk about how brave Manny is and try and blame the other guy for ducking.

Manny asked for a number for Crawford he knew couldn't be met and is now taking a lower paying , easier fight. I watched him do this for almost 6 years. Enough already.

Enjoy the fight! I will not be watching.

cheerleading? how about you take that hating somewhere else?

manny's fault just as much as bob? nobody is putting the blame on anyone here but you.

i've been saying all along and most pac fans would also agree that manny doesnt pick his opponents. he's even said it every time after his fights that he's willing to fight anyone but its up to his promoter because thats his job to play match making. you're the one who seem to have to come up with who to blame.

for some reasons yourself and the floyd fans keep trying to paint this picture that manny needs to be his own boss. why is this so important to you?

[The Big Dunn]

cheerleading? how about you take that hating somewhere else?

manny's fault just as much as bob? nobody is putting the blame on anyone here but you.

i've been saying all along and most pac fans would also agree that manny doesnt pick his opponents. he's even said it every time after his fights that he's willing to fight anyone but its up to his promoter because thats his job to play match making. you're the one who seem to have to come up with who to blame.

for some reasons yourself and the floyd fans keep trying to paint this picture that manny needs to be his own boss. why is this so important to you?

what hate? its a garbage fight. Manny and Bob are taking it and I and others are expressing how mad we are about this.

Bob said Manny picks his opponents. whenever its a crap opponent, fans like you say its Bob. Whenever its a good opponent, you go back to Manny picks his opponents. Pick one and stick with it.

I am doing no such thing. Ask the fans that you think are doing this that question. Maybe they can answer it.

[WesternChamp]

Also begs the question If Crawford has problems making 140, why would he demand Manny at 140? Seems fishy.

maybe because he said it himself? LOL

“It will be at 140,” Crawford said via ESPN.com, when asked what weight he would consider a fight against Pacquiao.

[Robbie Barrett]

cheerleading? how about you take that hating somewhere else?

manny's fault just as much as bob? nobody is putting the blame on anyone here but you.

i've been saying all along and most pac fans would also agree that manny doesnt pick his opponents. he's even said it every time after his fights that he's willing to fight anyone but its up to his promoter because thats his job to play match making. you're the one who seem to have to come up with who to blame.

for some reasons yourself and the floyd fans keep trying to paint this picture that manny needs to be his own boss. why is this so important to you?

Arum picked Crawford. Pacquiao priced himself out. It's pretty fucking easy to see who's to blame.