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  • #21
    I'd say Andre is just posturing for negotiations except he even brought up how he was going to pray with his wife for guidance about what to do... would he really bring prayer and his family into a negotiating tactic? That just seems so fake and two-faced...

    Oh, I forgot. It's Andre Ward, so I guess it's possible. Still, there seems to be a ring of truth to this. Ward is not excited about fighting Kovalev again after taking so many hard shots and losing the fight. That much is clear.

    If Ward retires, he is a legend!

    In his own mind... only there.

    Ward still does not have a legitimate victory over a prime A-level fighter his whole career, so he can't say he's accomplished everything. Fighters who accomplish everything have multiple wins over prime A-level fighters. Some have double digit ones. Ward has ZERO. As his own trainer said, Ward drained and "scaled down" to 168 for most of his prime to fight smaller guys, in the weakest division in boxing. He fought slow, overrated and/or past prime B-level fighters like Abraham, Kessler, and Froch, tailor made for his style. To really go down as a legend, he needed to actually compete in his natural weight class, 175, and beat actual high level athletes like himself, in a weight class with real talent. If Ward had gone through Kovalev, Stevenson, and Beterbiev, and cleaned out his natural division the way GGG is doing at 160, then Ward could go down as a legend. But he already tripped up at the first hurdle getting beaten by Kovalev, and now he's already talking about retiring.

    Legend lol? Accomplished everything? Not even close. What kind of yes men do some of these fighters have that they can have 31 fights, 30 of them at a "scaled down" weight class below their natural, 30 of them against subpar opposition, but then they think they've "accomplished everything"? Bro if I didn't know better I'd say Ward was still 25 just starting his career, because that's how many fights he has, and that's the level of opposition he's fought outside of Kovalev. He's still in his prime years, and he wasted like 4 of them in the court room, so effectively he's 27 in terms of ring years, not 31, but he thinks he's accomplished everything at 27 lol?

    I mean hell, Ward's real goal this whole time was to reach the top of the HBO hype-for-pound list, and he still hasn't even done that despite HBO letting him basically start at #3. He never beat one elite fighter but they already had Ward penciled in for promotion as #1 pound for pound... all he had to do was beat ONE top opponent legitimately and HBO was ready to call him Floyd Mayweather, but Ward STILL couldn't make the top.

    In reality, he should be chasing all the top guys like Kovalev offered Stevenson and Beterbiev fights. Ward is younger than Kovalev! And he sat out for years! But you don't hear Kovalev talking about quitting. But assuming Ward won't even do that, at the VERY LEAST you'd think he would want to achieve his goal of headlining HBO's hype-for-pound list, and you know all Ward has to do is actually beat Kovalev, and HBO will put him there.

    I mean isn't that crazy? This has been Ward's major goal for years. And because he's HBO darling, all he has to do is beat one guy. BUT HE STILL MIGHT BACK OUT! HBO is making it as easy as possible for Ward to achieve his goal, and Ward is still considering backing out. It's crazy man. THIS IS WHY YOU HAVE NO FANS ANDRE! NOT RACE, NOT DOUBLE STANDARDS, THIS!!!!

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    • #22
      Dam when did he catch b!+ch@$$ness

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      • #23
        Ward is retiring because he's blatantly Ducking Kovalev. It's a Floyd Mayweather move.

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        • #24
          Ward is HOF, but his legacy (especially in the longer term), would be diminished if he refuses to take a rematch with Kovalev while both are in their prime given the controversy surrounding the first fight.

          I doubt he does retire, but the talk is also kinda hurting his credibility in the short term as well.

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          • #25
            When there was doubt in the Castillo and Maidana first fights, even though he clearly won. Mayweather came back and dominated both of them in a rematches.

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            • #26
              Ward needs to fight Kovalev again to prove, beyond any reasonable doubt, that he is the better of the two fighters. However, I would bet that Ward retires to avoid a Kovalev fight, and then comes back in a year to fight Julio Caesar Chavez Jr.

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              • #27
                I was a fan of Andre Ward til the Dawson fight....but since then he has totally made me despise him. He's the opposite of a champion. Everything from suing Goosen (and losing multiple times) to his BS tune ups. His attitude blows. I thought he lost against Kovalev....and he acts like he got a legitimate decision.

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                • #28
                  Gary Russell Jr said the same thing after beating Jhonny Gonzalez. He wept for there were no more worlds to conquer.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by PanchoCordova View Post
                    Ward is retiring because he's blatantly Ducking Kovalev. It's a Floyd Mayweather move.
                    Please name one legitimate fight that Floyd ducked, let alone retired to duck. Note: Golovkin is not a legitimate fight!

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                    • #30
                      Not so fast Andre. You accomplished everything at SMW no doubt. But lets be clear here. You are a light heavyweight. There is still much to be accomplished here. You won the Kovalev fight but ****s are still crying robbery. It was a close win but you did win it. Still, even with beating Kovalev much more decisively in the rematch you won't be the undisputed champ. You can be with the Stevenson fight. That is your legacy fight. I'm not ready to write that fight off as not being able to be made because of the political red tape. I think a good earnest try to negotiate the fight should be made. It unifies the division and shows you could do something Kovalev couldn't do for years. Once you do that I'm ok with you saying you've accomplished everything. I don't really care about you jumping up to heavyweight for a title fight against a weak belt holder. Your legacy doesn't need that. But you can really separate yourself from the guys in this era by being undisputed LHW champion. You were the clear best SMW but also never collected all the paper belts to be considered undisputed. That division isn't a true division to the boxing historian but LHW is. You need to do this.

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