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  • Originally posted by mathed View Post
    The win you are bragging about was a fight where 70% of the observers had it for the other guy, since you seem to like numbers.

    And bragging about phukking Alexander Brand...a 40 year old who was so bad that HBO initially rejected him as an opponent. NOW, that is something you can't make up..Hahahahahahha
    Keep dodging the question haha, you ducked it like Calzaghe ducked prime fighters. Brand has a KO rate of 70%, Kessler is the only fighter on JC's resume that comes close to having that power.

    70% of observers? You fan boys pulled that stat out of your ass haha. The majority of people hated SOG on this forum before and they still hate him after, their opinions unchanged.

    This is nothing new, like SOG taking titles, it was expected.

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    • Funny thing is he probably thinks people will miss him and beg him to stay by threatening to retire, but in reality most would be fine with him going away. Watching animals **** is more entertaining than any round this guy's ever fought.

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      • you dont't need their approval andrei.......but unless you want to make $$$$$ you kinda do.....or just talk a lot os **** and back it up like floyd did....or pull the race card and feel sorry for yourself...:

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        • Originally posted by Cutthroat View Post
          Keep dodging the question haha, you ducked it like Calzaghe ducked prime fighters. Brand has a KO rate of 70%, Kessler is the only fighter on JC's resume that comes close to having that power.

          70% of observers? You fan boys pulled that stat out of your ass haha. The majority of people hated SOG on this forum before and they still hate him after, their opinions unchanged.

          This is nothing new, like SOG taking titles, it was expected.
          It was 72% in this much bigger poll

          http://www.badlefthook.com/2016/11/2...e-kovalev-ward

          That you have to resort to compubox percentages, straight lies and spin (Ward dominated Bika lol, putting down Hopkins), and boosting of Brand to put him above renowned cherry picker Calzaghe, that's all you need to know about this retirement threatener

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          • Originally posted by Cutthroat View Post
            -Kessler won 3-4 rounds before JC could adjust, he landed 47% of his power shots:
            http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Jo...Mikkel_Kessler

            A 25 year old Ward absolutely dominated Kessler, his only preparation was Miranda-Pudwill. He showed he was on another level, JC didn't. 47% power punches landed by Kessler, replace his name with Kovalev's, what do you honestly think the result is?

            -Hopkins was 170lbs against Pavlik and the titles weren't on the line. We saw what Kovalev did to Pascal, even Gonzalez beat his ass.

            Shumenov, Cloud? RJJ? Murat? You're really reaching, 4/5 of these guys including Pavlik are all face forward brawlers, tailor made for his style. Dawson, Kovalev, Smith Jr. all did it better than JC. RJJ, he's shot to ****, Johnson Green, Lebedev, Tarver all did it better.

            -Eubank's last 2 wins were over journeyman that boxed out of 3rd world countries, one of them was a MW too! JC cherry picked the shyt out of his opponent.

            -"Mini Tyson" Jeff Lacy had just arguably drew with journeyman Omar Sheika right before losing to JC. In what world is Omar Sheika a P4P quality fighter? He's a journeyman.

            When you examine the actual facts, you'll see right through JC's bullshyt.
            So winning the majority of rounds and winning them comfortably != dominating? I seem to remember Ward dominating Kessler with his headbutts but lets ignore those details...

            The fact that you're now even trying to discredit Hopkins resume just to make Ward look better is laughable. The Sheika fight wasnt right before the JC fight, stop lying. Why dont you mention the Reid fight? You know the guy who had a split decision loss to JC and pushed JC hard? Lacey beat the hell out of him and forced his corner to retire him that night (something that had never happened to him before).

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            • Originally posted by daggum View Post
              eubank hadn't beaten a top 10 fighter in years. 2 wins over bums.

              lacy was not the heavy favorite. the odds were nearly dead even depending on the sports book. you can go back and look at website archives and see for yourself. lacy also was crap. worse resume than berto so how was that a good win? people were saying berto and broner were great so i guess they are?

              roy jones was shot.

              hopkins beat him quite easily. landed almost all the clean punches. calzaghe hitting air and getting countered. terrible decision and easy to score since only hopkins was landing.


              he beat kessler, bika, and some other decent fighters. stop pretending he has a great resume. ward has a much better resume even though he lost to the best fighter he fought. he fought prime guys, better guys, and looked more impressive. i hate both guys btw
              Maybe you should actually read instead of jumping to conclusions like an idiot. I didnt say Calzaghe had a good resume, I said his resume was comparable to Wards.

              See the links below where they mention the british and US media making Lacy the favourite and Calzaghe being the heavy underdog:

              http://theboxingtribune.com/2015/02/jeff-lacy-another-story-thats-not-ending-well/

              http://www.badlefthook.com/2008/11/10/658250/the-story-of-joe-and-jeff

              You can try and discredit Lacy now but prior to the fight he was the heavy favorite and was being described as a mini-tyson.

              Again I dont even like Calzaghe and had him losing to Hopkins but some of these Ward fanboys are ridiculous

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              • Hit The Road, Andre

                http://www.thefightcity.com/andre-wa...rement-boxing/

                By Robert Portis · On January 10, 2017

                In November boxing got a rare treat: a showdown between two of the very best fighters in the sport, pound-for-pound. And while Kovalev vs Ward didn’t exactly remind anyone of Moore vs Durelle or Ali vs Frazier, it was still a damn good battle: competitive, suspenseful and featuring two very fine performances. Putting aside the controversial decision, which, in the eyes of this pundit, went to the wrong boxer, a rematch makes perfect sense. After all, it was a close fight that elevated the standing of both men, plus the bout’s contract included a rematch clause. Let’s do it again!

                But instead of new agreements being set and signed and Mr. S.O.G. and The Krusher getting ready to go back to their respective training camps, Andre Ward is letting everyone know that he’s questioning the need for a second battle and is instead pondering retirement. In fact, he has released a series of statements since the fight which are at times baffling and collectively seem to add up to one of two things: either Ward is negotiating through the media and positioning himself to maximize his bargaining leverage. Or, he really, really, really doesn’t want to fight Sergey Kovalev again.

                Then again, maybe he’s just very confused. That can happen when your ego is bigger than an aircraft carrier. As we have discussed in the past.

                So, on the one hand, Ward isn’t sure there’s really any need for a return bout. While he appeared very surprised in the ring when the official verdict was announced, Ward now insists that he clearly won and definitively proved himself the better boxer. So why bother doing it again? Yeah, Andre, good point! Why does boxing bother with rematches? Who needs ’em? To think we wasted all that time on Joe Louis vs Max Schmeling II, The St. Valentine’s Day Massacre, the Gatti vs Ward trilogy and all those other ****** rivalries. What were we thinking? From now on, one and done!

                But in the same breath Ward then says that if everyone just gives him all the credit he feels he deserves (is that even possible?), kisses his ass, hands over the lion’s share of the purse money and genuflects on cue, then a rematch can maybe happen. At least I think that’s what he’s saying here: “I beat the guy nobody said I could beat. My thing is, everybody involved, let’s act like that happened. Then there should be no problems putting together the type of fight and rematch that fans want to see and also benefits me as the champion.”

                Most thought Kovalev got the better of it.

                Andre, the whole reason the first match was so attractive to fight fans in the first place was because no one really knew who was going to win. This idea that everyone was picking Kovalev to beat you is just that, an idea, in your brain and nowhere else. Because a quick check of actual betting odds from before the match shows you were in fact favored to prevail. So why this bull**** about “nobody” thinking you could win and demanding everyone treat you a certain way? Why not just be more blunt and honest and shout, “Show me the money!” Wouldn’t that make things simpler for everyone?

                But now comes word that even a massive payday and the requisite amount of butt kissing is not going to be sufficient, that in fact Ward is wondering if it’s time to call it a career and say goodbye to boxing entirely. To which I say, “Can I have the privilege of fetching your coat and showing you to the door, Mr. Ward?”

                Because, in all seriousness, should Andre Ward actually decide to retire (which he won’t, of course), what does boxing really lose? Look at the man’s record. Would we notice a huge difference if he wasn’t around? Would there be a yawning vacuum at the center of our sport, a gaping hole in the heart of boxing, if he never fought again? Would fight fans be suffering bouts of S.O.G. withdrawal and demanding that HBO and Jay-Z stop everything else they’re doing and bring him back for the legions of fans that can’t wait to see him perform again? I kinda doubt it.

                Ward seemed as surprised as anyone that he got the decision.
                Consider the fact that since January of 2012, Ward has competed a grand total of six times. Six fights in five years. And of those six fights, only two could be said to be of great interest to sports fans, those being his matches with Chad Dawson, in September of 2012, and Kovalev. In terms of genuine drama and excitement, that’s all that Ward has delivered for us. Six fights. In five years. Take a second and let that sink in. And consider that just a few days ago this website celebrated an all-time great champion who once fought 27 times in a single year!

                I don’t know about you, but I’m more than a bit tired of these entitled talents like Andre Ward acting as if they are God’s gift to the sport, like fight fans should get down on their knees every day and thank the good lord above that they are still choosing to put their talents to use within the squared circle. Aren’t you? Sometimes it seems like they’re in a competition to see who can clown boxing fans more, or who can make the most money with the fewest number of fights.

                These diva boxers like Ward have, arguably, done more damage to boxing the last decade or so than anything else as they have propagated the idea that it’s okay for champions to hold out for huge paydays while competing no more than twice a year and facing the least deserving opponents they can get away with. Witness Cotto, he of the pink crocs, now taking on James Kirkland of all people and trying to convince us it’s a pay-per-view worthy match. This crap has got to stop.

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                • C'mon Andre.

                  I was rooting for you, but you cant walk around in denial your whole life.

                  Isn't a man of God supposed to be truthful?

                  Do whats right and give Kovalev his rematch.

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                  • Originally posted by Freedom. View Post
                    Freedom posts on a racist forum called Caste Football..he called Boxingscene a racist forum

                    http://www.castefootball.us/index.ph...website.35255/

                    read the sig of the poster there and read his here..exact same damn quote...

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                    • Originally posted by larry x.. View Post
                      Freedom posts on a racist forum called Caste Football..he called Boxingscene a racist forum

                      http://www.castefootball.us/index.ph...website.35255/

                      read the sig of the poster there and read his here..exact same damn quote...



                      this is funny. seems like too much of a coincedence to me. known racist. racist forum. same complaint. same exact rhetoric he uses on this forum to describe said complaint. same quote? surely it is the same guy.



                      back to the matter at hand:
                      ward is being a diva again.

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