floyd mayweather jr- what more could he have done?

[The Big Dunn]

I don't think Floyd could've done any more other than fight people he didn't fight.

When people that matter (historians, media) assess his career, he is always judged the best of his era and is usually in the top 12-20 boxers of all time.

The fans that hate him and the fans of guys he beat generally try to minimize his career since he was never defeated. They are entitled to do that.

Is what it is. I can't wait to see how they react when he is a 1st ballot HOF'er.

[hugh grant]

He could have travelled. He could literally fight anyone but rarely chose toughest opponent.
His attitude was always why should I be disadvantaged? Why should I fight someone bigger, stronger, longer reach, talker. Without getting g something back.
No real daviiud and Goliath moment in Floyd's career, or very occasionally at best.

[chirorickyp]

1. Fight guys in or at least near their PRIME
2. No catch weights
3. Let fighters wear their own choice of gloves as long as it's legal
4. No illegal IVs at home

With that being said I do miss the whole event that comes with a Floyd fight.

I don't care if Victor Ortiz, Berto, Robert Guerro are 'World Level' or hold belts, we all knew the outcome of those fight.

Floyd's best wins are Hernandez, Diego Corrales, Ricky Hatton. NO ONE come up with chit like Mosley, DLH etc cuz we all know where they were in their career when losing to Floyd.

Compares Floyd's best wins to Manny or BHOP, not even close son.

Floyd had ATG skills but didn't test himself near enough, he is ATG top 50.

Sir, you just nailed it. That is the best and most accurate description of Floyd's career without being a nut hugger or a hater.

If he fought to close the show, he would have been admired even more. But he never ever did. He should have opened up against Pacquiao during round 11 and 12 and saved boxing, but definitely chose not to.

[*TonyMontana*]

Sorry for the length of the post, just answer the title if you cant be ****ed to read it all...

So, With most sports, i think theres a tendency to overlook recent sportsman, in favour of past sportsman. Whether people view the past with rose tinted glasses, or see a bias towards past sportsman as being associated with being a knowledgable fan of the sport i dont know. But the trend seems to be there.

So the discussion about P4P number 1 in the other thread got me thinking, thinking about how weak the current CV's are compared to mayweather, who had an iron grip on the P4P spot for many years.

And not only did i think the current fighters CV's cant compare, i was then thinking, the vast majority of all time greats from the past struggle to match up with it too. At the very least mayweathers achievements have to be considered as some of the best in the sports history

When i think about fighters standing in the sport in an all time sense, i think one of the most important questions to ask is, 'what more could they have done?'. In the case of mayweather, im struggling.

Im not some big fan of floyd as for the most part i enjoy more attack minded boxers, but the list of fighters he has on his CV is tremendous, and to go 49-0, and not have a real off night or get knocked out by a fluke shot or anything like that is incredible.

Pretty much all the other fighters in the ATG category lost, they all had off nights. Unbeaten isnt everything, but to do it against world level competition that mayweather fought is something else.

I know the main accusations about mayweather is cherry picking (despite consistently fighting world level opposition and rarely fighting a bum with the frequency that other fighters do) but what more really is there to beat him with other than 'he could have fought pacquiao earlier' (mayweather was older), or 'he ducked margarito' (do people genuinely think margarito would have been able to beat mayweather?).

Mayweather had his struggles, with castillo and maidana, but he won the rematches clearly, and really, what fighter in history has won every fight clearly if theyve fought top class opposition?

So what do people think? Will mayweathers accomplishments look far greater in a few years? And if people do not see mayweather as one of the best fighters of all time, what more could he have done?

Your threads are getting better
And no
He did it all
People expect so much from Floyd
It took me a few years but he really was fxckin brilliant
Nobody shut PAC down like that

[A.K]

Only thing he could of done different ws fight PAC in 09

[daggum]

cant think of anything besides fighting guys who were good but thats a small quibble

[Larry the boss]

he solely put boxing in a coma with his diva demands that now all boxers seem to copy.
not even talking about his cherrypicking.

What diva demands?? what cherry picking?? did he not work his way through 5 divisions and was actually lineal in 4 of them?? did he not earn his way to the top?

[Madison Boxing]

Your threads are getting better
And no
He did it all
People expect so much from Floyd
It took me a few years but he really was fxckin brilliant
Nobody shut PAC down like that

you wont be saying that once i get my 'does golovkin hit harder than mike tyson' thread written up....

[Larry the boss]

Never challenged himself. That's why he'll never be remembered that well. He had a masterful way of stinking up the joint with his presence.

Never challenged himself??

fighting from 130-154

Canelo
pacquaio
judah
mosley
oscar
cotto
hernendez
corrales
castillo


thats not challenging yourself??


who is your favorite current fighter and why?

[kingstip9]

Fight Pacquiao when it really mattered- 2009
Rematched dela hoya
Fought margarito/cotto when it mattered
Fight more than once a year
Fought Canelo at 154 (even though he'd win, it's just an outrage he handicapped Canelo.. who funny enough now goes on to handicap everyone he faces)
Let maidana wear his commission approved gloves (floyd really sunk low then)
And many more things, can't be stuffed to go into

Ultimately, floyd mayweather fought only for money, and he certainly made it.
He's not invincible, if he had a promoter picking any fight for him and making him fight everyone the fans would've wanted him to fight. He'd take more damage and eventually lose.

He says it all the time, that the fans will love you then when your done, they move onto the next.
Business wise, I really respect floyd, he really made people think his undefeated record was everything, and he used it as his marketing tool
But floyd to me was more of hype than anything. Amazing skills no doubt, but no duran or Ali
(He never really tested adversity)
I mean honestly, he reeeeeaaaaallllly handpicked his opponents lol. He could've done alot more
So let him have his money , but I wouldn't place him anywhere near the top ten of all time