Fighting outside the Top Rank stable

[Motorcity Cobra]

What are some notable big fights where a Top Rank star fought outside the Top Rank stable AND he wasn't a huge favorite. No purse bid fights. We got Bradley-Pac three times and it doesn't seem like Bradley will ever fight outside the Top Rank stable. He doesn't have a fight in sight. No rumblings of a fight.

I'm trying to gauge the future for Parker and Lomachenko. We know Parker vs. Ruiz II is coming. There are some fights at 130 for Lomachenko but will Bob work with Golden Boy with one of his stars?

[Motorcity Cobra]

Bradley

Pre-Top Rank

Whitter

Campbell

Holt

Alexander

Peterson

Abregu

After signing with Top Rank

Casaymayor

Pacquiao

Provodnikov

Marquez

Pacquiao

Chaves

Vargas

Rios

Pacquiao

[Motorcity Cobra]

So nobody wants to talk about the elephant in the room? Top Rank star fighters don't fight outside Top Rank unless they're heavy favorites

[HanzGruber]

Yea arum always talks about willing to work with other promoters..... when his guy is guaranteed to win

Bradleys legacy went to shlt when he resigned with top rank. MArquez win is good. BUT nobody will care about his other fights with tr

[brettWall]

At least their top fighters do round robins. I've never seen that in the PBC/Sho stable. Takes years before they fight each other.

[John Locke]

At least their top fighters do round robins. I've never seen that in the PBC/Sho stable. Takes years before they fight each other.

They do round robins with fights that don't need round-robining, if that's even a word.

TR are the worst promotional company in the sport and didn't put together half the amount of competitive fights PBC did for us last year. Wake up.

[Raonic]

Ali vs Vargas? Not a super fight but 2 top 10 WW at the time for a title.

Provodnikov vs Matthysse, though not sure if TR had rights to Provo or not (think Provo's main promoter was Banner or something like that).

[brettWall]

They do round robins with fights that don't need round-robining, if that's even a word.

TR are the worst promotional company in the sport and didn't put together half the amount of competitive fights PBC did for us last year. Wake up.

How many fights can TR make with the limited number of fighters they have now compared to PBC/SHO? In recent times they have guys like Marquez, Pac, Bradley, Rios, Provo, Alvarado, etc. In the past they have Margarito, Cotto, Mosley, Clottey, Pac, all fought each other.

[John Locke]

How many fights can TR make with the limited number of fighters they have now compared to PBC/SHO? In recent times they have guys like Marquez, Pac, Bradley, Rios, Provo, Alvarado, etc. In the past they have Margarito, Cotto, Mosley, Clottey, Pac, all fought each other.

Here's a better question, if their stable is so small, why do they have so many inactive fighters, fighting once or twice a year? Isn't that what you spend 95% of your time on here saying? That PBC fighters are inactive etc (which is true)? Surely with a smaller stable, your fighters should be getting in more fights? Or is it because they overpay their fighters, again the same thing you accuse PBC of doing (again, in certain cases it's true)? How is Crawford getting over 1m to fight Hammerin Hank Lundy or John Molina? How is Lomachenko getting over 1m to fight Sjkaetakdkgigi? Surely if they didn't pay these guys in trucks for mismatches, they would have a bigger budget for more cards and better fights?

PBC have also made this mistake, but overall, they're doing a lot more for the sport than any other brand. They're making competitive fights (more than anybody else), putting fights on free TV, matching their prospects tough (lost count of the amount of PBC prospects who lost their 0 in 2016, but nobody talks about this...) and they are open to working with other promoters. My only major complaint with them is they need to manage their budget better, stop paying such big purses for tune-up fights, this will also solve the inactive problem, there will be a lot more money on the table to go around, make more fights etc.

Anyway, my point is, you're extremely double-standard. What I don't understand is WHY?

[big_james10]

What are some notable big fights where a Top Rank star fought outside the Top Rank stable AND he wasn't a huge favorite. No purse bid fights. We got Bradley-Pac three times and it doesn't seem like Bradley will ever fight outside the Top Rank stable. He doesn't have a fight in sight. No rumblings of a fight.

I'm trying to gauge the future for Parker and Lomachenko. We know Parker vs. Ruiz II is coming. There are some fights at 130 for Lomachenko but will Bob work with Golden Boy with one of his stars?

Arum is not going to make a fight outside of his stable unless he has no other choice. Lomachenko has a rema tch against Salido and fights against Crawford and Pacquaio available to him, so he won't be fighting outside of the Top Rank stable until at least 2019.