Comments Thread For: Marquez on Pacquiao KO: I Said 'Now Try To Steal it From Me!'
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Im sure it was lightweights? Why can't it be that the weight he put on later in his career was muscle and gave him extra punching power? On top of throwing a perfectly timed right cross whilst his opponent's hands were down and head was moving into his fist face first.Comment
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Now if you're asking me for my opinion as a fan, I lost respect for him long ago for being a sore loser. I would never accuse anyone of roiding but his connection to Memo and his out-of-nowhere power is far from a coincidence. In his eyes, he's only lost to Mayweather and that's comical. I liked Morales, Barrera then Marquez in that order but there's not one credible boxing writer or historian that don't rank him among one of the best Mexican fighters, it's not my opinion. And you're slightly off on him ducking Hamed and Morales. Marquez fought in the shadows of Morales and Barrera virtually his whole career until they began to decline. He didn't start getting good fights until after the decline of the other two. I wouldn't say he's overrated AF, but I do happen to think Morales and Barrera were better.
Ok...I'll be fair and say that I consider him overrated in the sense many call him an All time great and a HOF fighter, and I strongly disagree with that.
I feel that All time great status should be reserve for the truly greats.
Also, I think it's a stretch to call him a HOF but I guess with boxings low standards, he will get inducted.
FWIW I say the same thing when people claim guys like Cotto, Mosley, Calzaghe, Roy Jones and a bunch of other fighters are talk about in such manner.
Maybe I'm over doing it but I'm use to a guy like Barrera who went out and fought the absolute best in his era, DLH who took a lot of huge risks/fights, Lennox Lewis cleaning out the HW division......you know the truly greats who just didn't make excuses and went out and proved they were the best.
I just never got that impression from Marquez, and believe me when I tell you I've actually followed him since the late 90's.
I've remember him complaining Hamed was ducking him, even though he would have got his shot in 99 had he not lost to Norwood (was going to be a unification bout after Hamed got past Paul Ingle).
After fight fell threw a year later and Marquez was offered the Hamed fight with 6 weeks to prep (mind you he was already in camp) and a career high pay day. Not only did he price himself out, he cried that Hamed was awkward like Norwood and he would need several months to prepare. Ironically, he took a fight that landed just a week after the date his fight against Hamed would have been.
He also priced himself out against Morales and several other big bouts. So my thing is this; the lane was open for him to become a truly great fighter, but he made excuse after excuse.
Mind you, none of this is on the net and due to most people not following the lower classes then, there is now a lot of revision of history.
So nothing against you, it's just I have a different perspective as a fan who followed all of those fighters around that time and got to see which fighters were truly about being great (e.g. Erik Morales) and who were frauds (JMM).Last edited by Khalid X; 12-28-2016, 12:48 AM.Comment
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Totally man, that was what got him KO'd, people are quicker to jump to the ped conclusion than breaking down the fighters actions in those closing seconds, Marquez threw a good punch while Manny was making a dumb mistake.Comment
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THat was good. Lennox destroyed him. Marquez will not give a rematch even though Pac gave him 3 and gave him a career.
I predicted Holm over Rousey as well as Trump victory. If I knew Marquez was so roided I may have said might land a Hail Mary.Comment
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Point is, Fraud knew he would test dirty and also knew Manny would test clean. After all those years of blaming Pac for doing Roids and using that as excuse to duck....then he doesnt want an extra 5 if Manny tests dirty? C'mon man do the math.
1+1= Youre a small ****ed loser and no woman will ever be faithful to you
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Maybe? But you can't deny that Marquez is highly su****ious.Im sure it was lightweights? Why can't it be that the weight he put on later in his career was muscle and gave him extra punching power? On top of throwing a perfectly timed right cross whilst his opponent's hands were down and head was moving into his fist face first.Comment
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Also, if that was the case, how do you explain the kd. Was that just another perfectly timed shot we've never seen before by Marquez?Im sure it was lightweights? Why can't it be that the weight he put on later in his career was muscle and gave him extra punching power? On top of throwing a perfectly timed right cross whilst his opponent's hands were down and head was moving into his fist face first.Comment
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look at his other fights afterwards, was he one punch knocking anyone else out? Its fact that it was a clean hard punch whilst the guy was lunging in recklessly with his hands down he got hit real clean, the knockdown was another well throwen punch in my honest opinion would you not agree? its not like he hadnt kod tkod or knocked down most of his previous opponents he knocked down juan diaz and kod him too, PEDs and any other reason than he got hit and ktfo are merely speculation, you may be right mate, but evidence would be nice. Acne don't cut it for me either, he only KO'd pacquiao, not like it hadn't been done before either, but you could be right.Last edited by RememberTUA?; 12-28-2016, 05:06 AM.Comment
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Over 90% of boxing media and fans had the fight clearly for Bradley.
Only people who think otherwise, are hurt JMM fans who try to downplay the loss like what you are doing here.
JMM lost. It was a very technical fight and not sloppy at all. Bradley edged him out most rounds.Comment

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