The IBO Thread: Where do you rank their belts/champs?

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    #31
    Originally posted by LoadedWraps


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          #34


          WBA is oldest federation and this belt looks great. The belt of the international boxing organization is not so important. WBO, WBC, WBA and IBF more interesting.

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            #35
            Originally posted by RuslanChagaev


            WBA is oldest federation and this belt looks great. The belt of the international boxing organization is not so important. WBO, WBC, WBA and IBF more interesting.
            Didn't know the WBA was the oldest. Why did it fall out of favor?

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              #36
              Originally posted by LoadedWraps
              Didn't know the WBA was the oldest. Why did it fall out of favor?
              The WBA & WBC were created at essentially the same time (1962/1963), but their origins go back much further than that.

              The WBC was created by the NYSAC, EBU and others that had been regulating the sport for decades. The EBU was originally formed as the IBU in 1910 and the NYSAC began in 1920.

              The NYSAC was very powerful and with most of the biggest fights taking place in New York, the NYSAC had the influence to determine "world" champions.

              The commissions of the other states didn't want New York to have all the power, so they teamed up to create the NBA in 1921, which crowned "world" champions as well.

              So it's debatable as to which is the oldest organization because while the WBA was created in 1962, one year before the WBC in 1963, the WBA was born out of the NBA while the WBC was formed by the NYSAC, EBU and others.

              Since the NYSAC was formed in 1920, one year before the NBA in 1921, and since the EBU was formed in 1910 as the IBU, the WBC's claim to determining "world" champions traces back further than the WBA's.

              Also, since the WBC has the lineage of both the NYSAC & IBU, while the WBA only has the lineage of the NBA, the WBC has a much greater claim to being the true world championship.

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                #37
                Originally posted by original zero
                The WBA & WBC were created at essentially the same time (1962/1963), but their origins go back much further than that.

                The WBC was created by the NYSAC, EBU and others that had been regulating the sport for decades. The EBU was originally formed as the IBU in 1910 and the NYSAC began in 1920.

                The NYSAC was very powerful and with most of the biggest fights taking place in New York, the NYSAC had the influence to determine "world" champions.

                The commissions of the other states didn't want New York to have all the power, so they teamed up to create the NBA in 1921, which crowned "world" champions as well.

                So it's debatable as to which is the oldest organization because while the WBA was created in 1962, one year before the WBC in 1963, the WBA was born out of the NBA while the WBC was formed by the NYSAC, EBU and others.

                Since the NYSAC was formed in 1920, one year before the NBA in 1921, and since the EBU was formed in 1910 as the IBU, the WBC's claim to determining "world" champions traces back further than the WBA's.

                Also, since the WBC has the lineage of both the NYSAC & IBU, while the WBA only has the lineage of the NBA, the WBC has a much greater claim to being the true world championship.
                Thanks for this summary, good stuff.

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                  #38
                  happy to help

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