Comments Thread For: Chavez Sr: Canelo, Golden Boy are Offering Crumbs To My Son!

[Robi13]

I don't like the fact that he comes out in the media and says that they are offering peanuts but doesn't state what the amount is. If you are going to speak on it then let it be known otherwise don't say anything at all. It's like us fans don't wanna hear all that bs, make the fight or say there is no fight and both move on like gentlemen. Sh.it is annoying af. Anyway if it is 5 mil, that's not peanuts take it or leave it.

[Diegosome1]

Golovkin's dad is Julio Cesar Chavez?!

[P.K Dionysus]

Yeah nobody's picking up on that little detail. I joked that GGG should hurry up and sign the $10mill offer before a Chavez/Alvarez rematch in Sept '17 takes its place.

I think Julio/Canelo will actually do pretty well at both the gate and ppv #'s, and that their styles will make a pretty fun fight. I think the GGG offer may have already vanished, GB might have found a safe & lucrative alternative. Now watch, come December '17, Canelo won't be able to make 160 anymore.

But didn't Oscar say on First Take that Canelo wasn't scared of GGG, and GUARANTEED the fight taking place in 2017?

If Canelo commits a swerve like the one you guys are describing, after guarateeing the fight, there'll be going back.

Unless of course, GGG does end up moving up in weight.

[Eastcoast]

But didn't Oscar say on First Take that Canelo wasn't scared of GGG, and GUARANTEED the fight taking place in 2017?

If Canelo commits a swerve like the one you guys are describing, after guarateeing the fight, there'll be going back.

Unless of course, GGG does end up moving up in weight.

Promoters say things like that all the time, means nothing. If the Julio/Canelo is a big success that fans end up enjoying, Oscar will have all the justification he needs to tell Golovkin to go pound sand.

GGG can go to London and fight BJS instead or Gilberto Rameriz or winner of DeGale/Jack/Smith.

[Boxing Logic]

How is golden boy being cheap the offer they are making chavez jr is what both ggg and jacobs are making put together..they offered ggg 10 mill and i dont see anybody else offering 10 mill..you a hater

Because Canelo-Chavez is probably a big PPV fight. Two biggest Mexican names. This could sell a mil. Chavez probably deserves 10 mil anyway.

[elcashanilla]

I think 5 mill is a reasonable offer how much did chavez jr make in his last fight or the one before that now he wants to try and get greedy and cash out

[Boxing Logic]

My problem is that both Canelo and GGG do **** like this, yet both fanbases act like its only a tactic used exclusively by the other side.

K2 are NOTORIOUS for lowballing. Yet suddenly, GBP is the cheapest promoter in town. I'm not even gonna go into the whole "Anybody from 154-168 can get it... But 164 for Ward" debacle. Yet according to the Canelo fanbase. Alvarez trying to enforce Caneloweight, at 168 isn't an issue. Then there's the string of lackluster opponents on both sides.

These two are supposedly the faces of/best in the sport, yet they're both acting in a manner unbecoming of champions, and this will only. Serve to damage the sport in the long run.

AJ is my personal hope for the sport. He knows how to charm the media and through the media, casuals. He's starting to step up his competition by taking on the HW King of the last decade. People can talk about Fury, but Fury isn't a boxer at the moment. And lastly, I can't help but like a professional athlete who treats his body like a pro athlete should. Gym rat, work ethic, always tryna improve.

So I just hope that AJ reaches the heights he promises to reach.

Who has GGG lowballed? They were even willing to fight the champ from Britain for free years ago. They even signed to fight Pirog, the worst risk-reward ratio fight in boxing at the time. All these other guys, when it came to fighting GGG when he had no name, said "the money isn't worth the risk right now." But GGG signed to fight Pirog, who some say was just as risky as GGG, for even less money.

So you are making stuff up. Yes, fighters with promotional issues, or who fear losing, will lowball difficult opponents, and duck. Canelo has done that. But fighters like GGG who are truly the best and don't worry about losing? They are willing to make reasonable offers to get these guys in the ring. More than reasonable. And he has made those offers. People just duck him. Go read Quillin's twitter rant about "why should I face the most dangerous guy GGG when Floyd is making 50 million" fighting nobodies?

That is the type of attitude that is going on with these duckers and if you didn't know that, you need to go look into it and stop blaming GGG for it out of ignorance. He is not like those guys. He has demonstrated time and time again a willingness to make deals to fight any of these guys. Even offering to fight for free to get that exposure. Who else has offered to fight for free in a world title fight? Just GGG in recent memory. So again, research this stuff before you say GGG lowballs people. He definitely doesn't. There are some fans who thought Jacobs deserved 40% just because... magic! They don't realize how boxing works. BHop just got 800k to Joe Smith Jr's 140k. That's like an 80/20 split to fight someone in BHop who only sold 6k tickets last night. But BHop got 80%... meanwhile GGG is selling out 20,000 ticket venues, Jacobs can't even sell out half his hometown venue Barclays, but Jacobs deserves 40% when Smith Jr., who does sell out his local venues, gets 20%?

Like I said, people need to really learn how these things work before just saying stuff. GGG's team are very fair negotiators. They negotiated Klitschko-Fury and now Klitschko-Joshua with no problems too. If someone actually wants to fight GGG or Klitschko, they will get a fair deal. It's just no one wanted to fight GGG until now. What, you think suddenly more guys are calling out GGG because all of a sudden, GGG started to negotiate fairly only just now? Nah man you know better. Their offers haven't changed, it's just that GGG is turning 35 now. That's what's really changed. So it all comes down to whether these guys think they can survive a fight with GGG. They were too scared before, but now that he's 35, they think they have a shot. That's all it is. Nothing to do with lowballing or anything like that. The offers were always more than fair. They just didn't want anything to do with GGG until now.

Like Froch said, GGG hits like a mule. "Swerve him like the plague."

[bigdunny1]

Because Canelo-Chavez is probably a big PPV fight. Two biggest Mexican names. This could sell a mil. Chavez probably deserves 10 mil anyway.

Deserves 10m based on what? His biggest payday in recent years was 2.5m in a fight he quit on his stool damaging his own brand and draw value. Why you think haymon refused to pay and air his last fight on PBC? Why you think showtime refused to pay for it either. Likely made less then 1m for thst fight on Bein Sports. If he thinks he is getting the same 10m offer golden boy gave GGG he's ****** and will not get the fight. He can't make 5m fighting anyone else. Jacobs just fought tooth and nail in a long drawn out negotiations with GGG and that fight will likely see both fighters combined making 5m.

[StrangerInTown]

Alvarez is now officially a sideshow embarrassment.
Offering Kirkland and Chavez Jr. as PPV attractions is a triumph of greed, not sport.

[bigdunny1]

I think 5 mill is a reasonable offer how much did chavez jr make in his last fight or the one before that now he wants to try and get greedy and cash out

He likely hasn't made 5m combined in the last 3 years including 1 year he held out to get out top rank contract, then 2.5m for what was seen as a tuneup against fontana (ended in disaster), then a fight against bum in reyes to regain his confidence, pulled out title fight with Jack because he wasn't going to make weight took off another year then fought a bum in Mexico in a fight showtime and haymon refused to pay for likely made 800k, 1mil max in that fight. He saw GGG offer and thinks he should get the same lmao