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Impressions of a photographer who saw Canelo's weigh gain after the weigh in

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  • #21
    Originally posted by Dr Rumack View Post
    McGregor was allegedly cutting 25 lbs in 48 hours to make featherweight. The weight cutting culture in wrestling is brutal alright. Most people just wouldn't be able to do it.
    damn 25 in 48hrs? didnt know that... Thats damn right unhealthy but guys that wrestle do these things. Boxers (at the higher level) have less mass than MMArtist/wrestlers so the weight cut is less but less body fat on a boxer makes any weight cut almost as dangerous. Either way weight cuttings a dangerous game so Im all for a fighter fighting at whatever weight they can make because its not always to their advantage.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by j0zef View Post
      Exactly. Canelo was rehydrating to low-mid 170s when he was a 21-22 year old kid fighting at 154. Even if he didn't work out and just naturally aged he would tack on a few months. I would bet by 401k that Canelo weighed more than 175 last 3 fights. I can easily buy him being 180, but 187 was just garbage talk from Khan.
      No he wasn't he was 167 for Mosley and Mayweather, 165 for Hatton. Golovkin fans love to exaggerate so he doesn't look bad with his unwillingness to budge from 160. Claiming he'll fight anyone from 154-168 for years and then refusing to do it.
      Last edited by Robbie Barrett; 12-16-2016, 10:56 AM.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by _Maxi View Post
        This guy worked in the Canelo Cotto fight shooting Canelo. He saw the transformation after the weigh in. He also states that Canelo being 187 against Khan was bullshit, of course.



        Source: go to the video and read the first comment. The guy that uploaded the video is the guy that actually wrote that comment.

        I don't get it, this guy claims Canelo probably wasn't 187 against Khan but is ok with the idea Canelo was almost 180 v cotto. What's another 7 pounds for a guy who can gain 26lb in less than a day?

        Like I've been saying for years, boxing needs either same day weigh ins or a limit of no more than 5lb between then and fight time.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
          No he wasn't he was 167 for Mosley and Mayweather, 165 for Hatton. Golovkin fans love to exaggerate so he doesn't look bad with his unwillingness to budge from 160. Claiming he'll fight anyone from 154-168 for years and then refusing to do it.
          You're wrong. He was 22 when he fought Trout, and he weighed like 170 lbs.

          Against Floyd? Lmao, he fought him at a catchweight of 152 lbs.

          Anti-GGG fans like to miscontrue the facts and have a biased agenda, but often get caught for all their BS lies

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          • #25
            lol I'm not buying it, he does not visually look like he comes in there at 180 plus unofficial weights are not always done with fighters stripped down like in official weigh ins as John Molina Jr said. People were blowing smoke about him being 160 on fight night against Provodnikov but he revealed he weighed in fully clothed with phones and keys in his pockets.

            I'm always going to go by who can make the weight the night before, unless same day weigh-ins get brought back then there's no way of knowing who is really able to fight at what weight.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by _Maxi View Post
              This guy worked in the Canelo Cotto fight shooting Canelo. He saw the transformation after the weigh in. He also states that Canelo being 187 against Khan was bullshit, of course.



              Source: go to the video and read the first comment. The guy that uploaded the video is the guy that actually wrote that comment.

              Stripping 25lbs of fluid off of the body/brain, in a move to make weight, and then having to fight a legit fight the next day would, generally speaking, show up in the performance on fight night.

              Alvarez turned around and fought a hard 12 round fight against Miguel Cotto with little waver.

              A general rule of thumb that seems to turn out pretty consistent, imo, is that the typical fighter can boil off 10-15lbs to make weight, and still perform well on fight night. Much beyond that and the fighter 1)doesn't end up making the weight or 2)turns up dead in the ring on fight night.

              The fact that you are now trying to argue that Saul Alvarez was able to not only boil off 25lbs to make weight, but also that stripping off that much weight from his frame had no impact on his performance on fight night makes you look like an idiot.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
                Stripping 25lbs of fluid off of the body/brain, in a move to make weight, and then having to fight a legit fight the next day would, generally speaking, show up in the performance on fight night.

                Alvarez turned around and fought a hard 12 round fight against Miguel Cotto with little waver.

                A general rule of thumb that seems to turn out pretty consistent, imo, is that the typical fighter can boil off 10-15lbs to make weight, and still perform well on fight night. Much beyond that and the fighter 1)doesn't end up making the weight or 2)turns up dead in the ring on fight night.

                The fact that you are now trying to argue that Saul Alvarez was able to not only boil off 25lbs to make weight, but also that stripping off that much weight from his frame had no impact on his performance on fight night makes you look like an idiot.
                Alvarez gained 19 pounds after weigh in against angulo, and 18.5 pounds against Trout, and performed well in both fights.

                So don't come here with that 10/15 pounds rule.

                I don't think he gained weight to 180 after weigh in, but just wanted to post the opinion of the guy who actually works in boxing, and was shocked to see Canelo's transformation. He claimed he looked so huge compared to the day before that 180 didn't seem unreasonable. He's not affirming anything.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
                  I don't get it, this guy claims Canelo probably wasn't 187 against Khan but is ok with the idea Canelo was almost 180 v cotto. What's another 7 pounds for a guy who can gain 26lb in less than a day?

                  Like I've been saying for years, boxing needs either same day weigh ins or a limit of no more than 5lb between then and fight time.
                  I think he might be cutting 20 pounds. 26 seems unreasonable to me. The point the guy is making is that he had never seen such transformation.

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                  • #29
                    Canelo has one of those naturally wider builds, those guys store more water IMO.

                    You can just see when he cuts how much smaller he looks.

                    I have no doubt he adds 20 lbs over night, and 25 wouldn't surprise me one bit. With the use of diuretics and IVs, these fighters are doing insane weight cuts these days.

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                    • #30
                      the mans a natural 155 pounder. stop hating. you will eat your words when he moves up and becomes 165 pound champ.

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