Impressions of a photographer who saw Canelo's weigh gain after the weigh in

[b00g13man]

I'm going to assume this thread is some GGG fanboy propaganda.

[Tomjas]

It is an absolute disgrace that boxing isnt subject to the most stringent drug testing regimes.

[DoktorSleepless]

Guys put on over 20lbs all the time (or used to anyways, WBC & IBF are cracking down on it).

Angulo went from 154lbs to 174lbs vs Lara.
Quillin went from 160lbs to +180lbs vs Zerafa.

And there's the Canelo/Angulo fight. (155lbs to 174lbs)
Canelo weighed in at 155 lbs on Friday night missing the 154lbs limit. He was then required to have a secondary weigh-in, requested by Angulo, and Canelo weighed 166lbs at 3:00 pm the day of the fight. He then re-hydrated an additional 8lbs to come into the fight at 174 against Angulo. (Showtime screwed up reporting Canelo at 172lbs & Angulo at 174lbs, it was vice versa - Kevin Iole caught it when he spoke with the commission and I posted his tweets about it on this board).

So Canelo went from 155 to 174 and that was over two and half years ago. He's older now and naturally heavier. It's totally reasonable that he's in the 180's during his fights. That's why I feel the Chavez/Alvarez fight won't be about size, they're closer than most people realize.

You said that fighters put on over 20lbs all the time, but you only gave examples of guys putting on 20lbs. I don't see how that's evidence that Canelo might have put on more than 20lbs. He just went went down to 154 from his usual 155 for god's sake. He wouldn't be doing that if he was struggling that bad.

[Eastcoast]

You said that fighters put on over 20lbs all the time, but you only gave examples of guys putting on 20lbs. I don't see how that's evidence that Canelo might have put on more than 20lbs. He just went went down to 154 from his usual 155 for god's sake. He wouldn't be doing that if he was struggling that bad.

You mean that fight down in Texas, for which they had no VADA or USADA testing? 'Honest Alvarez' would never take advantage of such a situation....

[Motorcity Cobra]

At this whole topic and all the GGG fans in here. If he's 180+ on fight night he's to big for GGG, he's a small middleweight remember? So he should be fighting Chavez instead of GGG because they're closer in weight

[OnePunch]

Stripping 25lbs of fluid off of the body/brain, in a move to make weight, and then having to fight a legit fight the next day would, generally speaking, show up in the performance on fight night.

Alvarez turned around and fought a hard 12 round fight against Miguel Cotto with little waver.

A general rule of thumb that seems to turn out pretty consistent, imo, is that the typical fighter can boil off 10-15lbs to make weight, and still perform well on fight night. Much beyond that and the fighter 1)doesn't end up making the weight or 2)turns up dead in the ring on fight night.

The fact that you are now trying to argue that Saul Alvarez was able to not only boil off 25lbs to make weight, but also that stripping off that much weight from his frame had no impact on his performance on fight night makes you look like an idiot.

You're the one who looks like an idiot if you think a guy dropping 25lbs is impossible. Gatti used to make 140 and come into the ring at 165-170 all day long.

[DoktorSleepless]

You mean that fight down in Texas, for which they had no VADA or USADA testing? 'Honest Alvarez' would never take advantage of such a situation....

So now you're accusing Canelo of being a PED user with no evidence because you're speculating he's been over 180 with no evidence.

[Motorcity Cobra]

#GetOffTheGasGGGFans

[DoktorSleepless]

You're the one who looks like an idiot if you think a guy dropping 25lbs is impossible. Gatti used to make 140 and come into the ring at 165-170 all day long.

In what fights did he go to 170? In the infamous Gamache fight, he only went up to 160.

[Ray*]

As long as he makes the fight weight then that's cool by me, making the weight is dangerous on the fighters body, he would be killing himself mentally and physically but as long as they do drug themselves up to make the weight then it's cool.