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  • kafkod
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    #11
    Roach is a fan friendly trainer. He always gives at least 2 different answers to every question, so we can decide for ourselves which one we want to believe.

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    • Thraxox
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      #12
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      Manny was p4p #1 after Floyd retired and was #2 once Floyd came back and beat JMM.

      All of the points you make are fine. They do not however refute my point.

      I didn't post or imply Manny "is not fighting the best fighters possible in his career". I posted specifically the period when he didn't. You continue to either purposely misunderstand the point or are changing it because you can't refute it. Why?

      When Floyd fought those fights I preferred he fight better men, particularly Manny. However, if Manny refuses to fight nothing much could be done. As soon as Manny said ok, the fight happened.
      Floyd did not become pound for pound no.1 after he beat Marquez. He was only sent back to the p4p list to become number 2 pound for pound fighter after Marquez

      And other than that there is really nothing to refute because you just said you didn't agree with Floyd's competition when it is available. Both didn't fight each other when they were at their best. Floyd didn't want to Fight manny, Manny didn't want to fight Floyd, there's nothing much to argue about.

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #13
        Originally posted by Thraxox
        Floyd did not become pound for pound no.1 after he beat Marquez. He was only sent back to the p4p list to become number 2 pound for pound fighter after Marquez

        And other than that there is really nothing to refute because you just said you didn't agree with Floyd's competition when it is available. Both didn't fight each other when they were at their best. Floyd didn't want to Fight manny, Manny didn't want to fight Floyd, there's nothing much to argue about.
        Where did I post I didn't agree with those fights? I posted I preferred other fights. If Manny says no, not much you can do to make the fight happen.

        The same thing just happened-Manny (and Bob) chose Vargas over TC. However, at this stage of his career I don't think it fair to criticize the choice as much as back then. Manny has earned the right to pick whomever he wishes IMO.

        I do agree there isn't much to argue about.

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        • Thraxox
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          #14
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          Where did I post I didn't agree with those fights? I posted I preferred other fights. If Manny says no, not much you can do to make the fight happen.

          The same thing just happened-Manny (and Bob) chose Vargas over TC. However, at this stage of his career I don't think it fair to criticize the choice as much as back then. Manny has earned the right to pick whomever he wishes IMO.

          I do agree there isn't much to argue about.
          Green K. Nice talking to you Dunn, you seem like a good dude. Cheers!

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          • Larry the boss
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            #15
            works both ways doesnt it..........

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            • Larry the boss
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              #16
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              Manny was p4p #1 after Floyd retired and was #2 once Floyd came back and beat JMM.

              All of the points you make are fine. They do not however refute my point.

              I didn't post or imply Manny "is not fighting the best fighters possible in his career". I posted specifically the period when he didn't. You continue to either purposely misunderstand the point or are changing it because you can't refute it. Why?

              When Floyd fought those fights I preferred he fight better men, particularly Manny. However, if Manny refuses to fight nothing much could be done. As soon as Manny said ok, the fight happened.

              We are getting way off the topic.
              Floyd was #2 after beating Jmm and was moved back to #1 after Manny lost to Jmm

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