Why is it that lot of NSB users regarding Roach.....

[Thraxox]

Would only believe his words when it ****s on certain fighters?

"GGG has a very bad defense, I think Lara would beat him or Canelo."

NSB: ROACH TELLING THE TRUTH! GGG fan's gonna be sad!

Then Roach says: "GGG's going to beat Canelo. Canelo is still leaky even against a walking punching bag in Smith."

NSB: Roach is ******! Overrated trainer! his at 1-5 record in the last 6 fights!

Then Regarding to Pacquiao: "Pacquiao's going to beat Crawford pretty easily. KO's him."

NSB: Roach bull****ing again! He's ******! Overrated Trainer.

Then Roach then says: "Terrence Crawford is good, he hurt my guy a lot. I don't like his style. I don't want Pac to fight him unless we have a full camp to prepare."

NSB: ROACH TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT WILL HAPPEN! HE FINALLY REALIZES! GOOD ON COACH FOR BEING HONEST.

Is NSB here are just a bag of users wanting to hear the words that they wanted to hear instead of thinking on the sides of each?

[The Big Dunn]

Manny fans are no different. When Roach says Manny was hurt before the Floyd fight, they believe him. When Roach says he thought Floyd won the fight, they disagree and call him names.

[Thraxox]

Manny fans are no different. When Roach says Manny was hurt before the Floyd fight, they believe him. When Roach says he thought Floyd won the fight, they disagree and call him names.

This is the problem of NSB. They just believe what they want! It's better to just don't give a **** about what they said and just focus on the fighters. Because it creates such disarray for the opinions of other people. Instead of sticking to their own guts, they depend on too much for opinion.

[The Big Dunn]

This is the problem of NSB. They just believe what they want! It's better to just don't give a **** about what they said and just focus on the fighters. Because it creates such disarray for the opinions of other people. Instead of sticking to their own guts, they depend on too much for opinion.

Maybe the problem is pointing fingers at others while engaging in the same behavior you are complaining about.

[WesternChamp]

Manny fans are no different. When Roach says Manny was hurt before the Floyd fight, they believe him. When Roach says he thought Floyd won the fight, they disagree and call him names.

well, he came back and said he thought manny won. so which one do you wanna believe? lol

where as for the floyd fans, they disregard anything that they dont want to hear from roach but as soon as he says something that fits their agenda then all of a sudden their using it as facts and roach is telling the truth.

[Thraxox]

well, he came back and said he thought manny won. so which one do you wanna believe? lol

where as for the floyd fans, they disregard anything that they dont want to hear from roach but as soon as he says something that fits their agenda then all of a sudden their using it as facts and roach is telling the truth.

Don't complain. He thinks Margarito, JMMM, BRADLEY are easy fights for the 5'5 midget blown up lightweight. He will think all Manny's fights are easy unless it is floyd and doesn't think it is a challenge for manny because it is not floyd.

[The Big Dunn]

well, he came back and said he thought manny won. so which one do you wanna believe? lol

where as for the floyd fans, they disregard anything that they dont want to hear from roach but as soon as he says something that fits their agenda then all of a sudden their using it as facts and roach is telling the truth.

I think its easy to tell when someone is giving their honest opinion and when someone is towing the company line. I will give examples from the Floyd/Manny fight.

When Roach said he thought Floyd won, you could tell he was being honest. His actions in the ring were consistent with a trainer seeing his fighter lose. His response after the fight was consistent as well.

In the presser, you could tell Roach wasn't being honest and towed the company line because he was the only one that was incorrect on the timing of the alleged injury. He actually had to be corrected by Bob about the timing.

If you think only Floyd fans do this, then you are either playing ****** or are simply lying.

[The Big Dunn]

Don't complain. He thinks Margarito, JMMM, BRADLEY are easy fights for the 5'5 midget blown up lightweight. He will think all Manny's fights are easy unless it is floyd and doesn't think it is a challenge for manny because it is not floyd.

You have a real problem with lying. I never posted at any time that Manny was a "5'5 midget blown up lightweight."

I posted that all of those opponents were easier fights for Manny then a Floyd fight and there is nothing you can post to refute that.

When you are the consensus 2nd best in the world and instead of fighting the consensus best in the world, who is in the same weight class, and you instead take on mediocre competition and very good fighters that are clearly not as good you, those fights are easier than facing the best in the world.

I don't see why my statement is bothering you so much?

[Thraxox]

You have a real problem with lying. I never posted at any time that Manny was a "5'5 midget blown up lightweight."

I posted that all of those opponents were easier fights for Manny then a Floyd fight and there is nothing you can post to refute that.

When you are the consensus 2nd best in the world and instead of fighting the consensus best in the world, who is in the same weight class, and you instead take on mediocre competition and very good fighters that are clearly not as good you, those fights are easier than facing the best in the world.

I don't see why my statement is bothering you so much?

LOL Manny was the P4P 1 from 2008 to 2012 in his defeat against Timothy Bradley, those years were they were in their primes at their best, and it was manny who was the number one in the world. That was when he was fighting pound for pound fighters for those years.

2008 Marquez-Pound for Pound. 4, 2009-Ricky Hatton P4P.10, Miguel Cotto, P4P 7, 2010 Clottey P4P No.5 Welterweight, Margarito former P4P no.6, Shane Mosley No.5 Welterweight, JMM P4P number 3 when he fought them, then got robbed by a P4P number 9 in TB. Then beat a P4P Number 3 TB in 2014. So if you think Manny is not fighting the best fighters possible in his career what do you think of Floyd Mayweather fighting the Maidana's, the Guerreros and the Ortiz of the world?

[The Big Dunn]

LOL Manny was the P4P 1 from 2008 to 2012 in his defeat against Timothy Bradley, those years were they were in their primes at their best, and it was manny who was the number one in the world. That was when he was fighting pound for pound fighters for those years.

2008 Marquez-Pound for Pound. 4, 2009-Ricky Hatton P4P.10, Miguel Cotto, P4P 7, 2010 Clottey P4P No.5 Welterweight, Margarito former P4P no.6, Shane Mosley No.5 Welterweight, JMM P4P number 3 when he fought them, then got robbed by a P4P number 9 in TB. Then beat a P4P Number 3 TB in 2014. So if you think Manny is not fighting the best fighters possible in his career what do you think of Floyd Mayweather fighting the Maidana's, the Guerreros and the Ortiz of the world?

Manny was p4p #1 after Floyd retired and was #2 once Floyd came back and beat JMM.

All of the points you make are fine. They do not however refute my point.

I didn't post or imply Manny "is not fighting the best fighters possible in his career". I posted specifically the period when he didn't. You continue to either purposely misunderstand the point or are changing it because you can't refute it. Why?

When Floyd fought those fights I preferred he fight better men, particularly Manny. However, if Manny refuses to fight nothing much could be done. As soon as Manny said ok, the fight happened.

We are getting way off the topic.