Comments Thread For: WBC's New Rule - Fighter's Father Can NOT Be Chief Second

[Beercules]

Because Robert Guerrero got beat by an actual cab driver. That's one reason why.

Then you have "English" costing Jr the Golovkin fight (allegedly).

Floyd "Fighting Like You SCARED!" Senior.


These dads need to take a step back.

In TBE's case I actually support it if Uncle Roger is healthy enough to do it. He's a much better influence than Sr.



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Man Roger was funny in the corner

[_Maxi]

ok but like i said theyre not gonna tell angel to keep his mouth closed during the breaks

I don't know. Maybe fine him after the fight?

Motorpity Cobra, by "decision maker" they mean the person responsible for throwing the towel/finishing the fight if his fighter is under trouble, not the person giving the indications in the corner between rounds...

[Motorcity Cobra]

Motorpity Cobra, by "decision maker" they mean the person responsible for throwing the towel/finishing the fight if his fighter is under trouble, not the person giving the indications in the corner between rounds...

Chief second is a formal boxing term used to describe the head corner man. The ruling clearly says it prohibits the father from being chief second.

WBC passed a ruling that will prohibit fathers being chief-second to their son in WBC-regulated contests...Fathers will still be permitted to train their sons for WBC-regulated contests, and allowed in the corner, but not as the chief cornerman and decision-maker.

The chief second is the decision maker. You don't have a designated towel thrower in corners. You really can't be this ******. You gotta argue with yourself on this one. Don't even attempt it. This ain't the hill with dying on. Just move on.

[_Maxi]

Chief second is a formal boxing term used to describe the head corner man. The ruling clearly says it prohibits the father from being chief second.



The chief second is the decision maker. You don't have a designated towel thrower in corners. You really can't be this ******. You gotta argue with yourself on this one. Don't even attempt it. This ain't the hill with dying on. Just move on.

You're fucken ******.

behind the move was over concerns that the father may not act in the best interest of their son if he’s in a difficult fight, and may let the bout go on longer than necessary.

That has NOTHING to do with giving indications between rounds. A fighter can have three coaches in the corner giving him advice, it doesn't matter. What they are doing is assigning someone else as a responsible person for finishing the fight.

Period.

[Motorcity Cobra]

You're fucken ******.



That has NOTHING to do with giving indications between rounds. A fighter can have three coaches in the corner giving him advice, it doesn't matter. What they are doing is assigning someone else as a responsible person for finishing the fight.

Period.

Let me try to explain this to you as simple as possible. The term chief second is a formal term used in boxing to describe the head corner man (Angel Garcia, Abel Sanchez, Kenny Porter, Freddie Roach) The WBC specifically targeted the chief second. Their reasoning was because a father may not have his sons best interest at heart. They don't want the father, acting as the chief second, being the decision maker. The chief second in every single corner is the decision maker and has the final say. Sometimes you have surrogates trying to act as a chief second, Ariza. Sometimes you have fighters with two trainers in their corner, Badou Jack, but one has to be officially designated as the chief second.

What you're saying is that not only did I misinterpret this ruling but so did the writer, every poster in the forum, and the trainer's on the committee who agreed to this new rule. According to you everybody is wrong except you. THE CHIEF SECOND IS THE DECISION MAKER. THE CORNER ISN'T RUN BY COMMITTEE!!!

[285Kid]

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[_Maxi]

Let me try to explain this to you as simple as possible. The term chief second is a formal term used in boxing to describe the head corner man (Angel Garcia, Abel Sanchez, Kenny Porter, Freddie Roach) The WBC specifically targeted the chief second. Their reasoning was because a father may not have his sons best interest at heart. They don't want the father, acting as the chief second, being the decision maker. The chief second in every single corner is the decision maker and has the final say. Sometimes you have surrogates trying to act as a chief second, Ariza. Sometimes you have fighters with two trainers in their corner, Badou Jack, but one has to be officially designated as the chief second.

What you're saying is that not only did I misinterpret this ruling but so did the writer, every poster in the forum, and the trainer's on the committee who agreed to this new rule. According to you everybody is wrong except you. THE CHIEF SECOND IS THE DECISION MAKER. THE CORNER ISN'T RUN BY COMMITTEE!!!

I will make another question since you are very ******ed but I have some patience.

Is the chief-second the only person in the corner allowed to give instructions to the fighters between rounds?

The answer is no. So, while not being the "chief-second", the fathers will still be able to give instructions between rounds.

Fucking get it? Just like Kovalev had two guys giving him instructions in the Ward fight. His trainer and some russian.

DO YOU FUCKING UNDERSTAND?

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[anonymous2.0]

Who does this even affect?

[1hourRun]

******! Some trainers have brought up there fighters since they were children, they form a father-son type of relationship : Virgil Hunter-Andre Ward, Ben Getty - Keith Thurman ( R.I.P ) etc. Some trainers can be even more demanding than fathers considering they have less to lose. The premise if I understand this correctly was based off some death where the fathers were the cornermen the problem is that you can argue that if you look at most deaths in the ring its usually someone whos not related to the boxer...so you can reason that had the fighter had a relative in his corner they would of called the fight and avoid a tragedy -- it works both ways.