Comments Thread For: Marquez: Andre Ward Adjusted, Fought Well - Kovalev Also Faded

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  • champion4ever
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    #21
    Thank you Marquez for telling us something that we already knew. Ward was able to psyche Kovalev out by making him fight his kind of fight and at his pace.

    It appears that ever since the Bernard Hopkins fight, the Krusher has been eagerly attempting to show himself and others how well he could box.

    Sergei needs to resort to his old style by throwing more combination punches and fewer jabs. Landing just single punches at a time is not going to defeat Andre Ward but throwing more punches will.

    Given his physical ability, his fighting style will be better suited as a slugger rather than just a pure boxer.

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    • HarvardBlue
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      #22
      I think if Kovalev pressed the action and separated himself from Ward we wouldn't even be having this discussion. Ward neutralized his offense and made him look like he was fading. Kovalev seemed to have the same amount of energy throughout the fight but he wasn't having the same success in the last half. Hopefully he'll make the necessary corrections in the rematch because I think Ward will be just as confident and he now know he can get of the floor if needed.

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      • Tobi.G
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        #23
        Forget about all that scoring, this has been an good fight between two of the best p4p fighters we got today. Nobody got schooled, nobody got owned, both had their moments, thats it. Rematch please.

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        • Sadiqkingofko
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          #24
          I agree 100% with Marquez

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          • kingstip9
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            #25
            Originally posted by Tobi.G
            Forget about all that scoring, this has been an good fight between two of the best p4p fighters we got today. Nobody got schooled, nobody got owned, both had their moments, thats it. Rematch please.
            Nice man, couldn't agree more

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              #26
              Bias little ****

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              • jmrf4435
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                #27
                Kov won that fight easily.

                Marquez is bitter that manny is having a better end to his career lol

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                • TexasCowBoy
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Boxing Logic
                  They are. Did Marquez even have Ward winning?

                  Regardless, there is more than one bias that exists. Just because this is a different one than the demographic doesn't mean the demographic bias isn't also real.

                  It's like this:

                  • There is the counter-puncher bias. Guys like Malignaggi, Marquez may not be part of the dummygraphic, but they have their own bias towards counter-punchers because they are counterpunchers.

                  • Then there is the dummgraphic bias. Just because the counter-puncher bias also exists, does not mean that the dummgraphic bias doesn't exist too.

                  • Same goes for location. You could have a Russian dude from Oakland who trains at Ward's gym, who says Ward won. You would probably go "See even Russians think Ward won!" and go crazy about it, while ignoring the other variables.

                  In fact, that's really the reason the dummgraphic gets everything wrong in the first place. They don't understand variables, or context. They use selective logic. For example, when May-Pac negotiations were going on, the dummygraphic said "Floyd is the A-Side. If Manny wants the fight, he needs to accept what Floyd offers, because Floyd is the A-Side."

                  They said the same with Canelo-GGG negotiations, that GGG should take what's offered.

                  But then! When GGG-Jacobs negotiations started, I heard the dummygraphic saying "GGG is the A-Side, so that means it's his responsibility to make the fight, and to offer Jacobs what is necessary to make the fight. Jacobs should not just take what's offered. He deserves at least 40%" (even though the actual numbers in his career show he doesn't).

                  That is the root of the dummygraphic's ******ity. They start with bias, which causes them to use selective logic, and then because the boxing fans dummygraphic is dumb, they're not self-aware enough to see they're using selective logic, even when people like me show them irrefutable evidence that they are.

                  The dummygraphic is like the "hosts" in Westworld. Once people start using logic around the dummygraphc, it's like when people in Westworld talk about how the hosts are machines around the hosts, the hosts minds just shut off and don't hear it. Same with the dummygraphic and logic. Once the logic starts that exposes their bias, their minds just shut off and it's like it never happened. It's like an inner defense mechanism that allows them to maintain their racist views without ever having to face the evidence that shows them they're wrong. They will do anything to maintain their racism and bias, even turning off their brains.

                  Wow....Best Post Of The Day....

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                  • eason
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                    #29
                    Watd won clearly.

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                    • Shadoww702
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Boxing Logic
                      They are. Did Marquez even have Ward winning?

                      Regardless, there is more than one bias that exists. Just because this is a different one than the demographic doesn't mean the demographic bias isn't also real.

                      It's like this:

                      • There is the counter-puncher bias. Guys like Malignaggi, Marquez may not be part of the dummygraphic, but they have their own bias towards counter-punchers because they are counterpunchers.

                      • Then there is the dummgraphic bias. Just because the counter-puncher bias also exists, does not mean that the dummgraphic bias doesn't exist too.

                      • Same goes for location. You could have a Russian dude from Oakland who trains at Ward's gym, who says Ward won. You would probably go "See even Russians think Ward won!" and go crazy about it, while ignoring the other variables.

                      In fact, that's really the reason the dummgraphic gets everything wrong in the first place. They don't understand variables, or context. They use selective logic. For example, when May-Pac negotiations were going on, the dummygraphic said "Floyd is the A-Side. If Manny wants the fight, he needs to accept what Floyd offers, because Floyd is the A-Side."

                      They said the same with Canelo-GGG negotiations, that GGG should take what's offered.

                      But then! When GGG-Jacobs negotiations started, I heard the dummygraphic saying "GGG is the A-Side, so that means it's his responsibility to make the fight, and to offer Jacobs what is necessary to make the fight. Jacobs should not just take what's offered. He deserves at least 40%" (even though the actual numbers in his career show he doesn't).

                      That is the root of the dummygraphic's ******ity. They start with bias, which causes them to use selective logic, and then because the boxing fans dummygraphic is dumb, they're not self-aware enough to see they're using selective logic, even when people like me show them irrefutable evidence that they are.

                      The dummygraphic is like the "hosts" in Westworld. Once people start using logic around the dummygraphc, it's like when people in Westworld talk about how the hosts are machines around the hosts, the hosts minds just shut off and don't hear it. Same with the dummygraphic and logic. Once the logic starts that exposes their bias, their minds just shut off and it's like it never happened. It's like an inner defense mechanism that allows them to maintain their racist views without ever having to face the evidence that shows them they're wrong. They will do anything to maintain their racism and bias, even turning off their brains.
                      You got it WRONG!!! GGG is the one thinking he deserves 40-50% for a fight with CanYellow even though the actual numbers in his career show he doesn't

                      AND were talking about $10,000,000 compared to $1.25-1.5 million they want to pay Jacobs. Has GGG EVER made $10million a fight??? Has Jacobs made MORE then $1.25-1.5million???

                      GOD DAMN YOUR a FKN HYPOCRITE with ZERO boxing knowledge. Sticking to SUKING GGG's DIC which is where you not only have KNOWLEDGE but a SHT ton of EXPERIENCE!!!

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