If Garcia beats Thurman will he take his rightful place among top 10 p4p in the sport

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  • Sheldon312
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    #61
    Originally posted by therealpugilist
    so if a guy looks like the next Leonard but has no wins over elite competition, he should be considered p4p because of the way he dominates? no

    you are only as good as your opposition and the only way to know how good a fighter is, is based off how they deal with a variety of styles and success at the top level

    the only people i ever see minimize the importance of resume and level of opposition are fans who are big on fighters with thin resumes...yes it matters

    when Mayweather was considered p4p 1-3 he had one if not the best resume in boxing

    In Jones' era pre-2003 he was considered p4p, had one of the best resumes and completely embarassed world class guys and world champion.....he had wins over 17 world champs at the time yet "jones aint fight nobody doe".....Pernell whitaker was considered the best of his era....had the best resume too.....the list goes on and on.....who they fight matters


    everyone has a style preference but to dismiss level of competition is foolish
    So why is Crawford ranked so highly.

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    • therealpugilist
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      #62
      Originally posted by Sheldon312
      So why is Crawford ranked so highly.
      .....he has fought world class opposition n dominated them....2 division champ too bro

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        #63
        Originally posted by Sheldon312
        So why is Crawford ranked so highly.
        Bad example to use for this argument.

        You should have asked why GGG is ranked so highly, as his resume has a lot of solid names, but no really good ones.


        I agree that you shouldn't just go by the eye test - if a dude looks spectacular, but has no stellar competition on his resume.

        GGG is really my exception to this rule, as it is a bit of faith to rank him so highly with only solid fighters (but not really good fighters) on his resume.

        I do think DSG is shortchanged bc he doesn't always look great. But he gets the wins. I had him as high as ~#8 p4p, before he started the PBC crapfest stage of his career.

        But this argument may be moot by Saturday. If he wins I don't see how anyone can deny him a top 10 p4p spot. If he loses, maybe he didn't really belong.

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        • True-Boxing-Fan
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          #64
          Originally posted by therealpugilist
          Danny Garcia has the best resume of any fighter under the age of 30

          he is not pretty, doesnt score a lot of knockouts, but gets the job done

          I have a ton of respect for him. Yes he has won some close fights, like herrera and Peterson but he also has dealt with a variety of styles which will reflect not having shut out performances

          Danny hasnt been protected in his career so calling the guy a cherrypicker is a huge disservice to him. he has been in their with more world champions than more lauded fighters like Terrance crawford, Loma, GGG, KOv and Ward.

          Thurman is undefeated and holds a major title....once again dANNY will be the underdog....if he beats thurman, he pushes someone out of the pound for pound and takes his rightful place
          Of course he would be but that goes for Thurman too. If he wins I think he rightfully is a top 10 P4Per.

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          • therealpugilist
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            #65
            Originally posted by True-Boxing-Fan
            Of course he would be but that goes for Thurman too. If he wins I think he rightfully is a top 10 P4Per.
            I agree with you on that

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              #66
              Originally posted by therealpugilist
              I agree with you on that
              Well dude if you didn't make so many race baiting threads I guarantee you and I would prolly agree more.

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              • therealpugilist
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                #67
                Originally posted by True-Boxing-Fan
                Well dude if you didn't make so many race baiting threads I guarantee you and I would prolly agree more.
                If you actually posted in threads without a premise regarding race, you'd see I have posted threads about various fighters and topics....just saying

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                • therealpugilist
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by True-Boxing-Fan
                  Well dude if you didn't make so many race baiting threads I guarantee you and I would prolly agree more.
                  Guess you didn't take the time to see who started the thread....I did lol

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                  • Sugar Adam Ali
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                    #69
                    Yeah if he wins in clear dominant fashion, then yeah.. not a lock but should be considered, and not anything to ***** about if someone has them on their list.. some will still remember the Herrera, Peterson, etc fights and still question him, but the guy is a proven winner and that's all that really matters

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by therealpugilist
                      Danny Garcia has the best resume of any fighter under the age of 30...
                      ****ing abso ****ing lutely

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