Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Promoter: We Never Rejected 168 For Andre Ward!

[OnePunch]

Have you or any GGG fan ever said his demands are unrealistic? No.

You jusy got finished posting how GGG starting at 168 would be ****** or the reasons you posted. So its equally silly for a GGG opponent like Danny, for example, to start at anything less than the $3 mil BJS was offered. Yet you killed him for that.

Either everyone can negotiate or no one can. When Danny or other potential GGG opponents don't take the offer, you frame it as "screwing up the process of the division."

That is completely unfair.

if you cant see the differences between Jacobs and BJS respective leverage and positions, then there really is no point in furthering this discussion because I might as well be talking to a rock........

[LetOutTheCage]

You do know Ward's career before the Olympics he fought at MW? You do know why he moved up to LHW for the Olympics..Please tell us you know why?
Hint: it had nothing to do with him not being able to make MW

It's well documented that Ward gave up his middleweight spot on Olympic team to Dirrell didn't want to fight him as they've was close friends so fought at lhw

Yeah that's the story but I dont buy it. Ward had already won an amateur competition before the Olympics at lhw and Dirrell had no issues entering the super six with Ward in it. Had Dirrell not suffered an injury he would have faced Ward in the super six.

[Hatesrats]

GEE'S team is like school on a holiday.

[Shadoww702]

July 23, 2015:

Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas - Abel Sanchez, trainer of WBA/IBO middleweight champion Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin, has made it absolutely clear that he's not going to budge from his position that a potential fight with Andre Ward will only happen if Ward - the recognized champion at super middleweight - is wiling to meet them halfway at a catch-weight of 164-pounds.

Golovkin and his team received more than their fair share of heat in recent days, after placing a catch-weight demand on a potential fight with Ward. The reason for the heat, is because Golovkin was willing to fight both Carl Froch and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. at the full super middleweight limit.

But, Golovkin's side viewed Froch and Chavez Jr. as HBO Pay-Per-View opportunities, while they don't see Ward in the same respect. And Ward is by far a more dangerous fight, and likely one of the few boxers between 160 to 168 who the oddsmakers would favor to beat Golovkin.

Sanchez is a little annoyed that Ward faced Chad Dawson - who at the time was the light heavyweight king - at the super middleweight limit. In Ward's defense, it was Dawson who pushed the idea of dropping down to 168 to fight Ward.

The pecking order has changed, says Sanchez, with his boxer standing in front as the A-side of the equation. Having said that, he believes a 50-50 agreement in weight is more than fair.

"We don't need Ward. Golovkin doesn't need Ward. Dawson needed Ward. The fact that he made Dawson come down to 168 kind of irks me. When [Golovkin's promoter] Tom [Loeffler] said 50-50, and me and Tom talked about it, he meant 50-50 all the way across. That was the reason why I said 50-50 and 50-50 means 164 - right in the middle. If they want the fight, come to what Golovkin is asking for," Sanchez told BoxingScene.com.

"I don't think Ward should have a problem making 164. He talked about fighting Mayweather at 160. Why is he talking about fighting Mayweather at 160 if he's not willing to fight Gennady at 164?"

"If they thought that it was in their best interest to fight Gennady at 164, then fight him - or else they can go about their way. For us, Golovkin is the A-fighter in this situation and I don't care what anybody says. It's not like Golovkin is asking him to come down to 160, like [Golovkin] was going to do for Mayweather and go to 154. We're asking him to meet us halfway. If he doesn't want to, that's okay - we'll just go on to the next one."

http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkins...int_friendly=1

Jedi calls BS!!! And if it's NOT in Kazakhstan he won't believe a WORD anyone says.

[Shadoww702]

lol..what an idiot.

The IBF stipulates he can't go beyond 170. Of course he could if he wanted to.
He was so gaunt making 160 last time out people thought he was sick.
And since when does Ward have trouble making 175? He's tiny at the weight.

Typical GGG fanboi , expects everybody to move up to him , but he doesn't have to move up for anybody.

Kovalov looked HUGE compared to Ward!!!

[SplitSecond]

Have you or any GGG fan ever said his demands are unrealistic? No.

You jusy got finished posting how GGG starting at 168 would be ****** or the reasons you posted. So its equally silly for a GGG opponent like Danny, for example, to start at anything less than the $3 mil BJS was offered. Yet you killed him for that.

Either everyone can negotiate or no one can. When Danny or other potential GGG opponents don't take the offer, you frame it as "screwing up the process of the division."

That is completely unfair.

Have you got any proof for 3mil offered to BJ? I know the BJ fight would be big in the UK, but still, I haven't heard any such thing, last I remember was nearly 2 million.

[just the facts]

Yeah it's ridiculous to imagine GGG coming up in weight to fight Ward. It would be unfair to go up 8lbs. It would almost be like, I dunno, a Welterweight coming up to fight GGG. Maybe someone like Kell Brook.... yeah that would be totally unfair...

I like your style!

[The Big Dunn]

if you cant see the differences between Jacobs and BJS respective leverage and positions, then there really is no point in furthering this discussion because I might as well be talking to a rock........

BS cop out post. The discussion isn't who has more leverage between BJS and Danny.

The issue is the difference in standards you and other GGG fans have. When Danny starts negotiations at $3 mil, you fault him for it because it "slows the process". When GGG and his team said 164, which also "slows the process" you justify it by saying it was just the starting point in the negotiation.
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[The Big Dunn]

Have you got any proof for 3mil offered to BJ? I know the BJ fight would be big in the UK, but still, I haven't heard any such thing, last I remember was nearly 2 million.

Check the ESPN article where Dan cites the offer. It was $2.2 mil Euro.

Is Saunders a big name in England? Doesn't appear to be.

[SplitSecond]

Check the ESPN article where Dan cites the offer. It was $2.2 mil Euro.

Is Saunders a big name in England? Doesn't appear to be.

It's the UK, Golovkin vs a UK fighter would obviously sell. Boxing is dead in the US, not in the rest of the world.