Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Promoter: We Never Rejected 168 For Andre Ward!

[Metho_4u]

I don't know why this needs to be explained. None of these posts by Golovkin or loeffler have said "never at 168". Golovkin obviously wasn't moving 8lb's out of his weightclass for a nobody like Ward. If Ward would build his image back up, that would be a big fight and who's to say it wouldn't happen at 168? Golovkin has already said yes to fighting Ward before, has chased Froch when he was active and signed to fight Chavez at 168lb's. You're crazy if you think they wouldn't fight Ward at 168 if he actually provided something.

Golovkin wasn't gonna move out of his weightclass for 2 million.

Also since you are all taking the word of Sanchez like the facts of life.
"That's something that would be a discussion amongst the team. And if we all came to the consensus that it was the right thing to do, at that point, then yes we'd consider budging on the weight."

Ummm, that nobody would've put him in position to be at #1 p4p, but he pussed out and instead acted like he was a somebody in the boxing world and went on to sell a massive 95k ppvs, further proving that's he's a fuggin nobody pretending to be a real force lmao.

[bigjavi973]

Im not the biggest Ward fan, but there is no way in hell that someone will convince me that Ward moved up to face Kovalev in his third fight, but he was afraid to face a smaller middleweight moving up to face him at 168

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[bigjavi973]

and at one point Floyd told Manny $40 million. So what? Its called NEGOTIATING. There is a starting point (164), and then there is whatever you end up with. In this case it never went anywhere.

On what planet would it have made sense to start the conversation at 168? Then Ward wants 172. I swear it seems as most people here have never negotiated a single deal in their entire lives. They have no concept of how it works......

Hint: A successful negotiator does not concede every point to the opposition at the beginning of any talks

what a deflection he showed you that tommy boy said the same thing and this is your excuse.

[Bronx2245]

and at one point Floyd told Manny $40 million. So what? Its called NEGOTIATING. There is a starting point (164), and then there is whatever you end up with. In this case it never went anywhere.

On what planet would it have made sense to start the conversation at 168? Then Ward wants 172. I swear it seems as most people here have never negotiated a single deal in their entire lives. They have no concept of how it works......

Hint: A successful negotiator does not concede every point to the opposition at the beginning of any talks

The point is both Sanchez and Loeffler are liars! They have both called for Ward, and Ward only, to come to 164! They turned down an offer to fight Ward @ 168 in 36 minutes, and they did not have to cancel the Lemieux fight. I understand why they pursued Cotto and Canelo, and not Ward...$$$! However they're hypocrites to call others "business man," when they are "business man" themselves! Had they never stated "164" for Ward, but "168" for Froch and Chavez Jr., I wouldn't call this a "duck," however they did, so I will! GGG ducked Andre Ward!

[Bronx2245]

what a deflection he showed you that tommy boy said the same thing and this is your excuse.

If he knew anything about boxing, he should've already knew what "Tommy Boy" had said in 2015! This **** is very old news to real boxing fans!

[OnePunch]

what a deflection he showed you that tommy boy said the same thing and this is your excuse.

when you walk into a car dealership do you immediately offer them the sticker price??

You know what, it wouldnt surprise me one bit if thats what you do.....

[bigjavi973]

when you walk into a car dealership do you immediately offer them the sticker price??

You know what, it wouldnt surprise me one bit if thats what you do.....

deflect all you want... you stated that tom didnt say it that sanchez doesnt make the decisions etc.... and when proven that tommy boy DID in fact say this....

you deflect

you can take your biased bs that way

[cameltoe]

and at one point Floyd told Manny $40 million. So what? Its called NEGOTIATING. There is a starting point (164), and then there is whatever you end up with. In this case it never went anywhere.

On what planet would it have made sense to start the conversation at 168? Then Ward wants 172. I swear it seems as most people here have never negotiated a single deal in their entire lives. They have no concept of how it works......

Hint: A successful negotiator does not concede every point to the opposition at the beginning of any talks

But Loeffler is denying team GGG ever even said 164.

"No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar" Abraham Lincoln.

[The Big Dunn]

Wrong. Nobody begrudges someone making the best deal they can. The problem is when someone has such unrealistic demands that even a lay person knows cant be met, and their failure to be even remotely reasonable is screwing up the progress of the division...........

Have you or any GGG fan ever said his demands are unrealistic? No.

You just got finished posting how GGG starting at 168 would be ****** for the reasons you posted. So its equally silly for a GGG opponent like Danny, for example, to start at anything less than the $3 mil BJS was offered. Yet you killed him for that.

Either everyone can negotiate or no one can. When Danny or other potential GGG opponents don't take the offer, you frame it as "screwing up the process of the division."

That is completely unfair.

[cameltoe]

these guys are nowhere near the same size

168 or whatever would just be at the scales, golovkin is on the smaller side for a mw and pushing middle age, people are delusional thinking he needs to move up

Yeah it's ridiculous to imagine GGG coming up in weight to fight Ward. It would be unfair to go up 8lbs. It would almost be like, I dunno, a Welterweight coming up to fight GGG. Maybe someone like Kell Brook.... yeah that would be totally unfair...