Was Kov/Ward The Worst Fight Agreement Of All Time?

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  • champion4ever
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    #11
    No, those are just some of the privileges that come along with being the A-side fighter. All you have to do is ask Oscar De La Hoya, Floyd Mayweather, Jr., Manny Pacquiao or Miguel Cotto.

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      #12
      Originally posted by soul_survivor
      Even when Ray Leonard was the bigger star, he had to take short money on at least a couple occasions to get a title shot.
      You make an excellent point. Ray Leonard would often make concessions and compromises, in order to get exactly what he needed to win a fight.

      For example in the Marvin Hagler fight, Sugar Ray Leonard made a $2 Mil concession, in order to get everything he wanted. Which included: A larger ring, a shorter 12 round bout and also the thumb less gloves.

      Sugar Ray Leonard was very flexible back in his day as opposed to the many hard capped, hard lined take it or leave fighters we have currently.
      Last edited by champion4ever; 11-26-2016, 08:21 AM.

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        #13
        Originally posted by champion4ever
        No, those are just some of the privileges that come along with being the A-side fighter. All you have to do is ask Oscar De La Hoya, Floyd Mayweather, Jr., Manny Pacquiao or Miguel Cotto.
        except ward isn't the a-side. hes not popular at all. he wasn't even fighting on real tv before he made this deal. he was on BET. in order to get back on tv he had to agree to fight kovalev. they should have put more pressure on him since he had no leverage but then again ward probably would have ducked the fight if they did that

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          #14
          Originally posted by daggum
          except ward isn't the a-side. hes not popular at all. he wasn't even fighting on real tv before he made this deal. he was on BET. in order to get back on tv he had to agree to fight kovalev. they should have put more pressure on him since he had no leverage but then again ward probably would have ducked the fight if they did that
          That's very interesting. I didn't know that and you are probably right. I do know for one thing, he wasn't about to fight Kov in Russia. That would have been a deal breaker or anywhere else outside of the states.

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            #15
            Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
            There was no split difference. It was 50/50 for each side. Roc Nation just gave Ward a bigger guarantee than Main Events gave Kovalev. Roc Nation will lose money. Main Events won't.
            This.

            Promoters can and sometimes do pay fighters money on top of the fight purse amount due to a contract agreement.

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              #16
              Originally posted by soul_survivor
              Kovalev probably would have been better off taking the purse bid against Stevenson tbh.
              Money-wise idk. I suspect he probably makes the same or less. if it was a PPV I suspect it'd do better numbers cuz I believe Stevenson is more popular in Canada then Ward is in the US. And it could be advertised as a shootout at the OK corral and probably increased its numbers more.

              So idk about the purse bid getting him paid, but I think the upside was better with PPV and it'd have been a more appealing fight that could garnered him more fans moving forward.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                Money-wise idk. I suspect he probably makes the same or less. if it was a PPV I suspect it'd do better numbers cuz I believe Stevenson is more popular in Canada then Ward is in the US. And it could be advertised as a shootout at the OK corral and probably increased its numbers more.

                So idk about the purse bid getting him paid, but I think the upside was better with PPV and it'd have been a more appealing fight that could garnered him more fans moving forward.
                yep.

                It would be a bigger PPV on an international level and Stevenson is better known than Ward by quite some distance.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by champion4ever
                  No, those are just some of the privileges that come along with being the A-side fighter. All you have to do is ask Oscar De La Hoya, Floyd Mayweather, Jr., Manny Pacquiao or Miguel Cotto.
                  Ward had no belts and by this point in his career before Kov, he wasn't a draw either.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                    Money-wise idk. I suspect he probably makes the same or less. if it was a PPV I suspect it'd do better numbers cuz I believe Stevenson is more popular in Canada then Ward is in the US. And it could be advertised as a shootout at the OK corral and probably increased its numbers more.

                    So idk about the purse bid getting him paid, but I think the upside was better with PPV and it'd have been a more appealing fight that could garnered him more fans moving forward.
                    right now kovalev would be lucky to get 2 mill against stevenson but back when the purse bid happened he prob gets more than that. that was when haymon was in his FU-CK MONEY stage where he was spending money like a drunken sailor. prob gives each guy 100 million

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by HeadShots
                      If you have a worse deal in mind please list it.


                      Kovalev has the unified LHW titles. A dominant unified champion.

                      Ward NOT only got the split favor, 5 million to Kovalev's 2 million, he also got the shot without beating any worthy LHW contenders.


                      So the drastic split to Ward means Kovalev should get the fight in Russia right lmao
                      nope


                      Ward got home court advantage

                      All American judges

                      An American ref

                      House fighter.


                      LMAO i was like LMAO. Kathy Duva can't negotiate for shiiiite.
                      Ward was his mandatory after beating Barrera who was Kovalevs mandatory

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