Kovalev held 54 times..where is the uproar?

Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • CAPO3232
    Amateur
    Interim Champion - 1-100 posts
    • Nov 2016
    • 7
    • 0
    • 0
    • 6,035

    #41
    Well to just scrap your theory. Every fight doesn't employ the same strategy. It's called adjustments. To say WARD didn't do it to BERRERA but did it to another fighter is plain ******. Obviously he had no respect for BERRERA POWER. Obviously to negate KOVALEV power you get on the inside to stop his power. Why would he trade and stand in front of KOVALEV. In the same way KOVALEV is not going to fight in a phone booth against WARD. It's called the SWEET SCIENCE for a reason. Everybody is going to do THE GATTI type fights man. More to boxing than just K.O.'s

    Comment

    • sicko
      The Truth Hurts
      Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
      • May 2010
      • 34211
      • 2,594
      • 839
      • 151,307

      #42
      It was a TON of Headlocks in that fight, it got sloppy at times but I thought Byrd did great keeping things under control despite people trying to blame him

      He didn't want Ward to get inside and did what he can to prevent it and I have no problem with Kovalev trying to do what he had to do to win the fight that is boxing. But I also don't ***** and complain about Ward or Wlad or B-Hop or Ricky Hatton inside rugged style either that is part of boxing. As long as they RELEASE when the Ref call them to Release which they usually do then NO it is NOT illegal
      Last edited by sicko; 11-25-2016, 01:14 PM.

      Comment

      • -PBP-
        32 Time World Champion
        Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
        • Jan 2012
        • 24107
        • 836
        • 635
        • 34,297

        #43
        Regardless Ward did what he had to do to get the W. Great fighters find ways to win no matter what.

        Comment

        • Chrismart
          OK Jim...
          Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
          • Apr 2007
          • 14258
          • 826
          • 1,758
          • 308,493

          #44
          I think some videos can give off different stories, depending on what the video's author wants to show.

          For example, 1 minute 13 seconds into this guys video (below), he shows a still pic of Kovalev holding Ward in a headlock. The video rolls from there, the ref is splitting them up and the guy's voice over describes it as another instance of Kovalev holding/headlocking.



          But on the original video he's taking the still from (below). At that point of the fight (the still), if you watch it from 5 minutes 25 seconds, a few seconds before the still picture is taken. Ward is shook by a jab, so ducks down low and grabs Kovalev around the waist with both hands. He starts the hold on Kovalev as he's recovering from a punch, yet the guy in the top video has took a still of this a few seconds on (bypassing Ward's hold) and described it in the voice over as Kovalev initiating holding and head-locking.
          Which isn't a true indication of what really happened.

          Last edited by Chrismart; 11-25-2016, 01:43 PM.

          Comment

          • SterlingStained
            Banned
            Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
            • Jun 2013
            • 7671
            • 540
            • 581
            • 12,311

            #45
            Originally posted by sicko
            It was a TON of Headlocks in that fight, it got sloppy at times but I thought Byrd did great keeping things under control despite people trying to blame him
            i thought he did a good job at first by not penalizing either guy for holding and letting them and the judges decide the fight but in hindsight maybe if he penalized ward or kovalev for holding maybe we have a lot less holding....

            but then people will complain that the ref interjected...

            ward is thought of as some great inside fighter but he really is a cheap inside fighter.

            there's a way to fight inside without excessively clinching and holding the way ward does it....

            there's a way to be defensive without using excessive spoiling tactics that just drain any entertainment value from the fight.

            Comment

            • SterlingStained
              Banned
              Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
              • Jun 2013
              • 7671
              • 540
              • 581
              • 12,311

              #46
              Originally posted by Chrismart
              I think some videos can give off different stories, depending on what the video's author wants to show.

              For example, 1 minute 13 seconds into this guys video (below), he shows a still pic of Kovalev holding Ward in a headlock. The video rolls from there, the ref is splitting them up and the guy's voice over describes it as another instance of Kovalev holding/headlocking.



              But on the original video he's taking the still from (below). At that point of the fight (the still), if you watch it from 5 minutes 25 seconds, a few seconds before the still picture is taken. Ward is shook by a jab, so ducks down low and grabs Kovalev around the waist with both hands. He starts the hold on Kovalev as he's recovering from a punch, yet the guy in the original video has took a still of this a few seconds on (bypassing Ward's hold) and described it in the voice over as Kovalev initiating holding and head-locking.


              great video.

              awesome uploader.

              wished he would zoom out a bit and show more of the footwork.

              he uploaded the canelo flody fight like this as well....

              Comment

              • Deevel916
                Undisputed Champion
                Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                • Feb 2010
                • 7068
                • 282
                • 47
                • 13,675

                #47
                What I saw was Kov putting Ward in a headlock only after Ward would rush in head first and attempt to make it rough and ugly.

                Damn you Kovalev for trying to keep it an actual boxing match rather than wrestling on the inside.
                Last edited by Deevel916; 11-25-2016, 01:25 PM.

                Comment

                • eco1
                  Undisputed Champion
                  Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                  • Nov 2015
                  • 9953
                  • 1,715
                  • 8,553
                  • 71,221

                  #48
                  The only thing Kove did wrong was not choking that pos to death.

                  Comment

                  • Chrismart
                    OK Jim...
                    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 14258
                    • 826
                    • 1,758
                    • 308,493

                    #49
                    Originally posted by Sterling Archer
                    great video.

                    awesome uploader.

                    wished he would zoom out a bit and show more of the footwork.

                    he uploaded the canelo flody fight like this as well....

                    Yes mate i agree, it's a great video. I love watching the fights from that view :ANYWORD:

                    Comment

                    • TX_BOXNG
                      Undisputed Champion
                      Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 5515
                      • 237
                      • 26
                      • 28,695

                      #50
                      Both of them held, but lol didnt Ward grab his leg tried to tackle him down

                      Ward is the known clincher while KOvalev is a knockout artist

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP