Look at wrd face post fight..lol

[Larry the boss]

this is true, but some guys have worse chins, don't they? do you not score a guy's chin?

some dude takes a bomb and doesn't blink wins a round against a dude who takes a bomb and goes down and is hurt.


two guys fight an even round, and one guy gets cut with a clean punch, you score the round to the guy who cut the other guy.



you did ask that, i just think we're talking our way around that.

you do score facial damage. it's just that it's not the only scoring criteria.

facial damage is literally not a scoring criteria

[New England]

facial damage is literally not a scoring criteria

if oyu don't consider facial damage as an aspect of the scoring of a boxing match you are totally missing the point of what a boxer is trying to do. either that or you're just being difficult beause you think ward lost and have some kind of vested interest in him.


i bet ward, man. i went to vegas to see him.


how is busting somebody's face up not a means of addressing the effectiveness of his punching?

[b00g13man]

What the hell sort of casuals do we have posting here? WTF??

Street Fighter ain't real life bro. With your Ol' "Go home and be a family man" ass.

[boliodogs]

What Ward calls an inside game is illegal holding and hitting. Ward doesn't lead with a jab. He leads with a grab. He grabs the guy first and then wrestles him and throws punches while he holds him. That's legal and encouraged in MMA but it's illegal holding and hitting in boxing. Ward is the worst offender of illegal holding and hitting since Hatton got away with it in England. Kovalev isn't a bully. He is a great fighter who comes to fight with hard punches and not to hug, hold and wrestle.

[Graz]

The appearance of Ward's face post fight has nothing to do with whether he won or lost. The reason Kovalev won in most observers minds is because he was the more effective and dominant puncher in the fight. The judges didn't see it that way so its time to move on. We'll see if Ward's deserves some accolades after the rematch. That's the only way this controversial decision will be satisfied. Ward got the decision this time. Its over.

[-PBP-]

Boxing is scored by the round. You can get bloodied in round 4 but win every other round.

That is just lazy scoring. Dudes is on some video game ****.



Facial damage doe....

[LoadedWraps]

It's more of a testament to how useless it is to look at one's face, Pacquiao was dominant and looked pretty damn awful after the fight.

It's a poor example.

I gave the Manny the victory on points because he was throwing in volume and Clottey was hiding in his shell, but I wouldn't call it dominant.

If I box you and you throw all day and I sit in defense, you didn't dominate me, you just won on volume, maybe even outworked me, but Manny wasn't tagging Clottey all night, sooo many shots missed and were blocked. Clottey was more afraid to take risks than anything i'd say. Far from a dominant performance in my book. I think we could see a very different fight if Clottey opened up more, he was a fantastic fighter in his own right.

[Doctor_Tenma]

It's a poor example.

I gave the Manny the victory on points because he was throwing in volume and Clottey was hiding in his shell, but I wouldn't call it dominant.

If I box you and you throw all day and I sit in defense, you didn't dominate me, you just won on volume, maybe even outworked me, but Manny wasn't tagging Clottey all night, sooo many shots missed and were blocked. Clottey was more afraid to take risks than anything i'd say. Far from a dominant performance in my book. I think we could see a very different fight if Clottey opened up more, he was a fantastic fighter in his own right.

It doesn't get more dominant than making the other guy check out.

[LoadedWraps]

It doesn't get more dominant than making the other guy check out.

I guess, but I don't think he "checked out".

Either way I don't want to derail to thread with it, I get your overall point.

[jmrf4435]

"The appearance of Ward's face post fight has nothing to do with whether he won or lost. The reason Kovalev won in most observers minds is because he was the more effective and dominant puncher in the fight. The judges didn't see it that way so its time to move on. We'll see if Ward's deserves some accolades after the rematch. That's the only way this controversial decision will be satisfied. Ward got the decision this time. Its over. "

IN a situation like this, a "close" fight. It is absolutely significant that Kov's punches did more damage than wards. Especially if number of punches landed are similar....