Post your scorecard

[NaijaD]

I have a great memory and remember the fight clearly, because i didnt write it down i should stfu?

And im the ****head?
loving the logic there...

The thread title was post your scorecard, every one else is doing just that and explaining why they scored certain rounds the way they did, both Ward and Kovalev fans.

You came in talking about racial stuff completely off topic so yes logic suggests you are indeed the ****head here.

[Raonic]

Had 6-6 with KD putting Kovalev up.

[vwelsh]

1 - Kovalev
2 - Kovalev + KD
3 - Ward
4 - Kovalev
5 - Ward
6 - Kovalev
7 - Ward
8 - Ward
9 - Ward
10- Kovalev
11- Ward
12- Ward

114-113 Ward

This is exactly as I saw it

[!! Shawn]

You got some good points, no doubt about it, but as you said, I'm not gonna score one flashy punch, over a round mostly won by one guy. If you visibly hurt someone, you can almost be sure that you win the round on my card, but Ward was hurt in the 1st and KD'd in the 2. I did not see him hurt after that, and after round 7 it seemed that Kovalevs punches had lost all effect, he even connected a perfect counter late in the fight and Ward didn't even flinch. So when I saw Kovalev pitty punch in the end of the fight, I couldn't really give him any rounds, because Ward kept landing and taking more and more over, ever so slightly. I believe the money round here is the 10th or the 3rd. Whoever won those rounds won the fight. I saw Ward take it, but the smallest margin.

another thing is that the rounds Kovalev won was more dominant than the rounds Ward won, but ofcourse that doesn't matter, just an interesting observation (By Gorilla Production)

I really hoped Kovalev would've won it, but I think the judges for once had it on point. Ofcourse I wouldn't have minded if they switched positions, I wouldn't have called it a bad or faulty decision had Kovalev won.

A robbery is Bradley vs Pac 1. This was very far from a robbery, can't believe people say that on such a close fight.

Im actually one of the people that don't think Bradley vs Pac was a robbery. It was a very close fight. Pacquiao got lots of credit for punches he weren't landed, and the HBO team were very bad that night. Once Tim got up on his feet and boxed in the 2nd half of the fight he pretty much swept all the rounds, but the commentary team gave him zero credit for anything he did.

It was actually quite similar to the Ward Kovalev fight in that regard. One guy one early, the other guy made adjustments and started to pile up rounds late.

I didn't really have a dog in the Kovalev Ward fight. I was probably pulling a bit for Ward, but I was kinda soured by all of the soft touches he took in building up to the Kovalev fight.

I didn't really think much of Kovalev going into the fight. I still think he is incredibly one dimensional, but his power is quite something and his jab is quite good as is his footwork.

Im of the opinion that if Ward had taken more serious fights instead of the soft touches, he would have won a wide decision.

But he looked rusty in his wins against tomato cans, and his defense didn't look that great, and that showed in the first few rounds with Kovalev.

[Scary]

Im actually one of the people that don't think Bradley vs Pac was a robbery. It was a very close fight. Pacquiao got lots of credit for punches he weren't landed, and the HBO team were very bad that night. Once Tim got up on his feet and boxed in the 2nd half of the fight he pretty much swept all the rounds, but the commentary team gave him zero credit for anything he did.

It was actually quite similar to the Ward Kovalev fight in that regard. One guy one early, the other guy made adjustments and started to pile up rounds late.

I didn't really have a dog in the Kovalev Ward fight. I was probably pulling a bit for Ward, but I was kinda soured by all of the soft touches he took in building up to the Kovalev fight.

I didn't really think much of Kovalev going into the fight. I still think he is incredibly one dimensional, but his power is quite something and his jab is quite good as is his footwork.

Im of the opinion that if Ward had taken more serious fights instead of the soft touches, he would have won a wide decision.

But he looked rusty in his wins against tomato cans, and his defense didn't look that great, and that showed in the first few rounds with Kovalev.

Oh, Kovalev 1-dimensional? I really thought that this fight proved, that he had a lot more to offer than raw strength, something I've been expecting of him, ever since he beat Hopkins. In the Hopkins fight, he boxed cleverly throughout, never letting the thoughts of a quick KO cloud his tactics. I thought yesterday he proved, that against the best boxer in the game, he could actually box with him, stand in the middle and have a toss-up. When you say 1-dimensional, do you mean that he only relies on power? Because I really can't see no room for an argument like that, when the fight last night was a boxing match, with one of the best boxers in the game, and it was a razor thin decision where Kovalev boxed. As you also say, Kovalev has a very very good jab and exceptional footwork - Which are some of the most important aspects of a technical boxing game.
I furthermore wasn't under the impression that Ward looked bad in his tune-ups, but I've heard several trainers say that too, so that might just be me, but couldn't it just be that the transformation from 168 generally have some consequenses?

As for Pac vs Brad, yes, the HBO team in all of their fights did Bradley a disfavor, I agree. But I still think Pacquiao won 10 rounds in their first fight. After following the game closely for so many years, I know how Harold and Jim can wank eachother up - I like them though, but purely for entertainment value.

[The Akbar One]

Im actually one of the people that don't think Bradley vs Pac was a robbery. It was a very close fight. Pacquiao got lots of credit for punches he weren't landed, and the HBO team were very bad that night. Once Tim got up on his feet and boxed in the 2nd half of the fight he pretty much swept all the rounds, but the commentary team gave him zero credit for anything he did.

It was actually quite similar to the Ward Kovalev fight in that regard. One guy one early, the other guy made adjustments and started to pile up rounds late.

I didn't really have a dog in the Kovalev Ward fight. I was probably pulling a bit for Ward, but I was kinda soured by all of the soft touches he took in building up to the Kovalev fight.

I didn't really think much of Kovalev going into the fight. I still think he is incredibly one dimensional, but his power is quite something and his jab is quite good as is his footwork.

Im of the opinion that if Ward had taken more serious fights instead of the soft touches, he would have won a wide decision.

But he looked rusty in his wins against tomato cans, and his defense didn't look that great, and that showed in the first few rounds with Kovalev.

Fair post. You and I are few and far between regarding Bradley vs Pacquiao I. I agree, that was no robbery. Neither was last night.

[BrometheusBob.]

I think the range of good scorecards are 114-113 Ward through 115-112 Kovalev. I personally had it 114-113 Ward but can understand if you believe Kovalev should have gotten the nod.

I'll edit this post with the scorecard I had when I find it again.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

Kovalev - Ward

10-9
10-8
9-10
10-9
9-10
10-9
9-10
9-10
9-10*
10-9
9-10
9-10

* Lederman is on crack and showed his total bias toward Kovalev.

[WarMaidana]

10-9 Kov
10-8 Kov
10-9 Kov
10-9 Kov
10-9 Kov
10-9 Kov
10-9 Ward
10-9 Ward
10-9 Ward
10-9 Kov
10-9 Kov
10-9 Ward

116-111 Kovalev, but I could see 1-2 of my rounds I scored to Kovalev (I score a lot on agressipon) going to Ward, still it'd be a 114-113 victory for Kovalev. There is no way you can give Ward 7 rounds to win.

[!! Shawn]

Oh, Kovalev 1-dimensional? I really thought that this fight proved, that he had a lot more to offer than raw strength, something I've been expecting of him, ever since he beat Hopkins. In the Hopkins fight, he boxed cleverly throughout, never letting the thoughts of a quick KO cloud his tactics. I thought yesterday he proved, that against the best boxer in the game, he could actually box with him, stand in the middle and have a toss-up. When you say 1-dimensional, do you mean that he only relies on power? Because I really can't see no room for an argument like that, when the fight last night was a boxing match, with one of the best boxers in the game, and it was a razor thin decision where Kovalev boxed. As you also say, Kovalev has a very very good jab and exceptional footwork - Which are some of the most important aspects of a technical boxing game.
I furthermore wasn't under the impression that Ward looked bad in his tune-ups, but I've heard several trainers say that too, so that might just be me, but couldn't it just be that the transformation from 168 generally have some consequenses?

As for Pac vs Brad, yes, the HBO team in all of their fights did Bradley a disfavor, I agree. But I still think Pacquiao won 10 rounds in their first fight. After following the game closely for so many years, I know how Harold and Jim can wank eachother up - I like them though, but purely for entertainment value.

When I say one dimensional, I mean he only has one way of fighting. Jab right hand, and left hook. Not much variation. He is very good at applying that. But you don't see him changing things up.

One dimensional doesn't mean he is bad, or can't box. But can you honestly say that you can see Kovalev adapting an completely changing his approach as much as Ward has shown that he can? You don't see him varying the kinds of punches he throws, the range he fights at, etc. He needs to force you into his fight and range to be successful. He is really good at doing that, but if you can avoid being forced into that like Ward was able too in the late rounds, you can have success.

I had Kovalev winning by the way. But even in losing on my card, ward showed how multifaceted he is in changing up his style throughout the fight to find what worked.

Thats what one dimensional is. Not that he is just a puncher.