that would have been a horrible match-up for him, and EVERYONE with a clue knew it..... his team were smart, they didn't need to take that fight
it is their bullshht, and the ******ity of their fans, that get to me
it is about styles
truth be known I think that Golovkin could have success at 168 if they match him right, and if he is as good as they say..... I think he would have beaten Abraham, and would also likely beat Groves/Jack - although they would be good fights - but Degale/Dirrell and possibly Ramirez could be tough for him
the best path for him at 168 is to hope Jack beats Degale
EVERYONE knows Ward would win. Wards style is TERRIBLE for GGG. That would be a Mayweather/Canelo mismatch. Ward just took some major hits from a 185-188 lber. U could CLEARLY see the size difference so I would give Ward a 99% chance of taking GGG's punches without getting KO'd. Sht Brook two weight classes smaller took GGG shots. But he went full RTard trying to out slug GGG. Ward wouldn't do that dumb sht. Ramirez and DeGale I would favor over GGG. I also see DeGale beating Jack.
But WE both know GGG isn't ever moving up in weight. He's 35 and too old to try new tricks. The most I see him doing is a CW at 164.
You think the GGG/Jacobs fight is going to happen??? I don't. I just don't see K2 paying Jacobs. It will go to a purse bid and K2 is going to offer only $5 million. Which is going to leave $1.25 million for Jacobs. Who will turn that down. And Al Harmon isn't going to give GGG 75%. He would have to bid at least $8-10 million to get Jacobs making $2 million. And No FKN way does he give K2 $6-8 MILLION dollars.
Without a better split like 1/3 that fight has ZERO chance of happening. And we ALL know how CHEAP K2 is. So they won't be budging on the 75/25 split. They'll just pay a bum $500K and GGG the rest like usual.
There's no way it could've been scored a draw unless Kovalev had another kd or a point was deducted. I just felt it was ridiculous that no judge scored it for kovalev
Fight could have gone either way, I had Ward up by 1 point but honestly it could have easily been the other way, there was just so many rounds that could have gone either way.
The HBO team were a joke in that fight, especially Lampley and Lederman, I thought they were incredibly biased and gave Ward little to no credit, especially between rounds 3 and 4 which were much closer than they made out - and there was a later round that Lederman gave Kovalev that left me stunned.
I remember later on in the fight Kovalev to his credit landed a couple body shots and Lampley was going mental, yet didn't give the same reaction when Ward landed significant blows.
This is what you get when you get two top level fighters going against each other, there's loads of pick'em rounds and a massive debate on who won.
There's no way it could've been scored a draw unless Kovalev had another kd or a point was deducted. I just felt it was ridiculous that no judge scored it for kovalev
Ridiculous in what way?
I find it hilarious when people complain that a fight isn't scored a split decision... it was a close fight that could have gone either way, loads of 50/50 rounds, I don't get how its questionable that three judges scored a very close fight the same way, it wasn't like there was a 117-110 scorecard in there. How can it be deemed controversial because none of the judges disagreed with each other?
Rewatched just recently. Great-great fight, very smart boxing from both guys. And I've got Ward winning again. I mean Kovalev is very smart boxer, not even near a one-dimensional brawler like some posters here described him. But Andre figured him out, Ward was phenomenal, he turned the fight around against the most dangerous fighter with such grace. Beautiful fight, Kovalev would need to make some changes with conditioning and overall tactics (hide punch in combos, make less traps), otherwise I'm afraid Andre is gonna beat him with wider margin.
At worst a draw but Kovalev could have eeked out a win, he he did enough over Ward's constant clinching 2 earn that decision... as I posted a day or so ago it seems it's always the same judges in Vegas... pathetic...
I think last nights fight was a great fight and some people are missing that point because they're too busy crying about a robbery. Andre Ward showed he's a true champion by coming back the way he did in the later rounds. I disagree with a few people that Kovalev was gassed. He has a bad habit of slowing down in most of his fights but he couldn't afford to do that against Ward. You could tell in the last 2 rounds he was still game to fight. Ward was just better than anyone he faced before. I also disagree with Lederman's score card. Lederman is a great boxing analyst but he favors aggressive boxers especially if the rounds are close. The bottom line is, of the two, who had more success fighting their type of fight. Kovalev did in he early rounds but Ward adjusted beginning in the middle rounds and that was the difference in the fight.
When the wrong guy wins, people always cry robbery. But still, the wrong guy won the fight. Kovalev should have been given the victory, well deserved. I hope Ward doesnt disappear for a year. I'm not counting on a rematch though. Ward will either go on hiatus or fight someone else.
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