Anyone really believe Floyd is remotely close to being TBE ?

[KingHippo]

Well, he's top 10, so that's pretty close.

[IMDAZED]

He's one of the greatest to ever fight. He's clearly within the top 30 or so, which in itself is amazing.

Definitely top 30, more than likely top 20, and fair case for top 15.

Will be interesting to see how he's looked at 10 years from now.

[MDPopescu]

Anyone really believe Floyd is remotely close to being TBE ?

Seriously?


LOL.



Please let yourself be known.

... Undoubtedly, Floyd was/is TBE in making money from pro boxing -- which is enough for me...

[Willy Wanker]

Floyd barely edges Pac as the best of the last era, so I don't think he's even really close to being the best ever.

He's top 20 imo and I'm being generous, somewhat.

[BoxingTrav]

"He has never been dominated" B level castillo disagrees.

Dude really, if you want to have a debate let's do that. Floyd has never been dominated.
Did he knock him down?
Did he make him bleed?
Did he break his will?
Was this 120-108, 119-109, 118-110?

Floyd v Castillo was a closely contested bout, with Floyd winning early rounds and Castillo winning late rounds. All while Floyd had a bad shoulder. Mayweather between the first and second complained about the shoulder. Larry Merchant commented about it before the start of the second round. Foreman also commented saying "Massage my shoulder he said, that's not a good sign."

Now for actual quotes by Castillo about the fight, since you want to speak for him.


"If you look at the scorecards, the fight was actually very close, but after 10 rounds I got discouraged in just chasing him around the ring and I kinda gave up, to be honest," Castillo said. "I didn't realize the fight was actually that close with the judges."

"Even though I lost and didn't get that decision, it is still something I'm very proud of," Castillo said. "Not a lot of fighters that have faced him have gotten nearly as close as I have."

Is Castillo surprised by the heights reached by his former rival?

"No, because I know how good he was and could be," Castillo said, before adding, "I didn't fight in the era of Rocky Marciano, Muhammad Ali, or anything like that, but he's certainly the best boxer that I faced."

At the end of the day you were wrong Castillo would not agree with you. A

[BoxingTrav]

Floyd barely edges Pac as the best of the last era, so I don't think he's even really close to being the best ever.

He's top 20 imo and I'm being generous, somewhat.

How does he barely edge him?

Floyd has a better record
Floyd has a head to head win again
Floyd has a better record against common opponents

[Thraxox]

How does he barely edge him?

Floyd has a better record
Floyd has a head to head win again
Floyd has a better record against common opponents

"Floyd has a better record" Ahahahahahah 3 ATG mexicans at their prime and best weight class on Pac's resume disagrees + 8 division world champ>5 division

"Floyd has a head to head win again" - 6 years too late in the making.

"Floyd has a better record against common opponents" ahahhahahaahah, Floyd was put into ***** street by shane mosley, got his nose busted up against Miguel Cotto and barely scraping past Oscar Dela Hoya, while going life and death against Ricky Hatton at 147! and Pacquiao dominated them without so much of giving an effort!

Talk about overreaching!

[The Big Dunn]

"Floyd has a better record" Ahahahahahah 3 ATG mexicans at their prime and best weight class on Pac's resume disagrees + 8 division world champ>5 division

"Floyd has a head to head win again" - 6 years too late in the making.

"Floyd has a better record against common opponents" ahahhahahaahah, Floyd was put into ***** street by shane mosley, got his nose busted up against Miguel Cotto and barely scraping past Oscar Dela Hoya, while going life and death against Ricky Hatton at 147! and Pacquiao dominated them without so much of giving an effort!

Talk about overreaching!

When you look at Manny's titles does it matter that his titles at 154 and 147 were both at CW's, that his title at 140 was the IBA title and not a major belt?

How can you blame Floyd for the fight being "6 years late" when Manny refused the fight twice and got unneeded stitches in 2013 which prevented them from fighting before Floyd went to jail?

Floyd survived getting blasted twice by Shane while Manny didn't from JMM. Isn't that a positive? He beat all those guys before Manny except Cotto. Does that count?

[SterlingStained]

Seriously?


LOL.



Please let yourself be known.

his best win is either diego a non hall of famer or an injured past prime pacquia who he carefully danced his way around instead of fighting and dominating....

canelo could be a great win depending on how canelo pans out over time but that win will also be tainted because he used a catchweight...

almost got KO'D by a late 30s a year and a half inactive shane who was made to look better than he really is with a shot to **** margarito still going to thru the ill effects of the first cotto fight.

top 30 at the most. top 50 at the very least..

nowhere close to TBE which is still ray robinsons.

hell ray leonard has a better claim on TBE than floyd...

[Thraxox]

When you look at Manny's titles does it matter that his titles at 154 and 147 were both at CW's, that his title at 140 was the IBA title and not a major belt?

How can you blame Floyd for the fight being "6 years late" when Manny refused the fight twice and got unneeded stitches in 2013 which prevented them from fighting before Floyd went to jail?

Floyd survived getting blasted twice by Shane while Manny didn't from JMM. Isn't that a positive? He beat all those guys before Manny except Cotto. Does that count?

And didn't Floyd fought Canelo at a catchweight at 152? Talk about hypocrisy, and also missing a catchweight against Marquez.

Manny fought Margarito at 150 after the Margo's last fight at 147 foir a vacant WBO belt at 154 while also Manny is a Former Flyweight Natural Lightweight fighter is it is justified why manny needs a catchweight because it is justified . Manny Fought Miguel Cotto at 145 after Cotto fought Clottey at 146 in his last fight, while then fighting all of his welterweight bouts at the full weight limit beside Algerei. So no, you're wrong, still 8 divisions

Then Floyd pulled Marquez from Lightweight all the way to the welterweight then missing catchweight. How can you justify that pulling a smaller man from his weight class? But yet manny gets criticized for being the smaller man asking bigger men at a certain weight he can get on to.

Can anybody actually survive the shot that Manny took? Manny was on his way stopping JMM, then he walked in to a counter right hand shot head first right on the chin with Marquez's legs and body focused all its weight on that momentum of the punch, no one can survive that shot. Try imagining Floyd walking in to that counter shot, it was Manny being manny trying to finish off JMM. So that's what Floyd has against Pacquiao, so what's the point if Pac counters three of his common opponents?

"IBO is Not a Major belt at 140" Lineal Belts and the Ring Belts are belts determining who is the Man at a weight class, and Ricky was the man at the weight class and paper belts are not needed to classify who is the real champion at 140.

"How can you blame Floyd when Manny refused the fight twice."

Oh you mean the Offer that Manny should take 40 million flat fee then getting 120 million at 2015 and the second offer that Manny should get tested non stop all the way up at fight night?