team 3g has bigger fish to fry. his name is froch.
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Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View PostDude, just stop....
Onepunch's logic is fine and makes perfect sense..
A fihter is overpaid or underpaid based on the revenue they generate..
Golovkin promoters can handle his 5 million purses because he draws a ton of revenue.. He has sold out all over the globe..
Jacobs DOESNT bring hardly any revenue.. He couldn't sellout his hometown arena and GGG can
Ggg is the highest rated fighter on hbo for the past few years, jacobs barely draws any viewership
So yeah,,, ggg isnt overpaid when he gets 5 million because he draws much more in revenue
Jacobs is overpaid because he doesn't draw the revenue to justify multi million dollar purses..
Just because Haymon overspent doesn't mean that's what jacobs is worth.. There is a reason why Pbc has lost so much money and are cutting costs,, it's because they were paying foghters more than what they were drawing
I disagree. I believe the logic is flawed. This isn't baseball or basketball where the risk is the same day in and day out. Not all things are equal here.
You're not taking into account the risk vs reward factor.
I'm not saying ggg isn't deserving of a 5 million Dollar payday. I just don't agree that he should have got it for fighting a WW. With that said it was a huge event and generated a ton of revenue. So ok, I get it. Also, just to be clear, loeffler can't offer ggg 5mil a fight at this point. That was all Hearn and that UK money that made that happen.
Brook don't generate money like that but he got it due to the risk he was taking.
Same should go for Jacobs. He should be dealt with fairly. If the fight is worth X then he should be offered a fair percentage of that (I say 40%). Not because of revenues generated but because of the fact that he's a champion and the number 2 in the division. Not to mention there's a good chance his stock is going to drop even more once he gets kablammed and he'll never se a pay day like that again.
ggg on the other hand is in a position where he could actually take a little less on this one (which I'm not saying he should), beat Jacobs, IMO establish lineage again and be the undisputed "man" of the division. Which in turn would raise his stock quite a bit, especially when it comes to the Canelo negotiations. Who by the way is the highest rated HBO fighter (not ggg).
You guys should be advocating higher purses and fairer negotiations as well as making concessions by ggg to make this fight happen. Because when Canelo starts treating ggg the same way ggg treats his opponents, you'll all be saying the same thing I'm saying about Jacobs now.
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Originally posted by OnePunch View Postyou clowns are all pretty good at telling another man what he should do with his money.
maybe instead you should be telling Jacobs to accept the 25% and be done with it
There's a reason why K2 is adamant about avoiding a purse bid, and it's about time folks start realizing that.
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Originally posted by Dean_Razorback View Postyou are talking like jacobs gets 1.25 mil meanwhile GGG gets 10 mil. Golovkin won't be making much more than him. this fight isn't that big, at least not to generate the kind of money jacobs requests for it
All Jacobs has been asking for is fair share of the event; if K2 doesn't believe that the money is there to front, sharing the event is the only way to make sense of anything.
Guarantee Golovkin $1m, guarantee Jacobs $1m, and then split any upside on the fight 65/35 Golovkin. simple
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Originally posted by boliodogs View PostUnless you know what offers have been made and turned down it's impossible to know who is ducking who. Team GGG wanted the fight in December but Jacobs needed more time to train. Maybe Jacobs is the one who doesn't really want to fight that badly or he could be asking for an unreasonable amount of money. It seems like everything that goes wrong is always blamed on GGG on this forum. I see nothing wrong with team GGG talking with Froch's team about a possible fight. If the Jacobs fight falls through they want another option. There is nothing new or unusual about that. That is a normal part of the business of boxing.
Because let's acknowledge the facts; Golovkin hasn't fought since September, and will at the earliest end up fighting in February/March.
For a 34-year old fighter, fully accustomed to fighting 4 times a year, K2 openly letting the talks run as long as they've already run does Golovkin, the fighter, no favors.
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Originally posted by OnePunch View Postwba says 75-25 GGGs way. Unless you can think of a good reason that Jacobs (who has no following and brings no money to the dance) should get a 15% raise out of GGGs pocket, then they should just go to bid and leave it at that.
If Jacobs doesnt want it then fine, he can vacate or get stripped and GGG can move on in life.....
Whether the number is 15%, there's a value beyond what's been mandated that K2 should be ready and willing to pay to avoid having to deal with the possibility that the bout gets moved off of HBO.
People keep saying otherwise (and I don't know anything to change that), but there's a distinct feeling that K2 is unwilling to have Golovkin fight outside of HBO.
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