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  • Kigali
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    #31
    Originally posted by bigdramashow
    theyve already taken over. youre deluded if you think worldwide people see american boxing currently as a superpower, got a bunch of fighters fighting bums on PBC, wow how amazing what a superpower you are. Im not slagging america itself off cause it has an amazing boxing history, but the line up currently isnt inspiring


    Says the guy with an old f@ggot coward in his avi.
    If the US isn't inspiring then NOBODY is.


    You better open those tiny little eyes of yours and face REALITY

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    • b Murphington
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      #32
      I think it's safe to say USA is still the superpower. The fight capital is still Vegas.

      There may be a lot of belt holders in various weight classes spread out in different countries, but a lot of those fighters haven't fought outside of their home country.

      A lot of the belt holders in other countries, or just other fighters in general, aren't taken seriously until they fight a card in USA, against a USA fighter. Exceptions might be the UK. But did anyone know who Golovkin was until he fought in USA? What about Pacquiao? He wasn't known until he was fighting in USA. Canelo?

      Fact is a lot of those fighters need to get that American audience to propel them to the next level.

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      • Kigali
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        #33
        Originally posted by ////
        Well it's definitely not americans and hasn't been in decades.
        It definitely is..and you know it...but...you said you don't follow sports so I understand your ignorance.

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          #34
          A country way smaller than the US (UK) has more notable champions

          On a population vs accomplishments ratio the US is at like india level in boxing post 1990.

          Just terrible overall quality. We've resorted to nostalgia and fantasizing about the days before foreigners really participated and we could pretend we were the best.

          Slow farmboy Joe vs desperate freed slave Bob was the pinnacle. Or so we pretend.

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            #35
            Originally posted by bigdramashow
            i'd still say the latter two were boring. I like spence, im not bias against american fighters at all. Mike Tyson and James Toney are two of my all time favourites.
            What nationality are you?

            You seem ashamed.

            Vlad is boring...he put the entire division to sleep..that's when he was sleeping himself....on the canvas

            Nobody cares who you consider boring...I bet you can hardly defend yourself.

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              #36
              Originally posted by ////
              A country way smaller than the US (UK) has more notable champions

              On a population vs accomplishments ratio the US is at like india level in boxing post 1990

              The goal is returning to the top 10 at best
              Factor in the American Black population..then do your ratios

              MOST of America's greatness comes from that one group.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Kigali
                Factor in the American Black population..then do your ratios

                MOST of America's greatness comes from that one group.
                And it's gone. They looked good against fat american journeymen but got crushed on the global level. Are you really old?

                Not even doing good in the olympics anymore, only medalled at womens and bantamweight

                all dem great historica 5'9" middleweights went to the NBA though they didn't just get stretchered by russians before anyone knew who they were
                Last edited by ////; 11-09-2016, 03:14 PM.

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                • Madison Boxing
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Kigali
                  What nationality are you?

                  You seem ashamed.

                  Vlad is boring...he put the entire division to sleep..that's when he was sleeping himself....on the canvas

                  Nobody cares who you consider boring...I bet you can hardly defend yourself.
                  Im from the UK, the one with the most champs in the world. Its not just me who considers them boring though is it, even their own country doesnt tune in to watch them two. And im certainly not a wlad fan thats for sure...

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by bigdramashow
                    i'd still say the latter two were boring. I like spence, im not bias against american fighters at all. Mike Tyson and James Toney are two of my all time favourites.
                    I'm pretty sure you'd be more defensive when people criticize them and mention their accomplishments at every turn.

                    No way any country could have this many world champions and p4p fighters without boasting about it. Look at you, a handful of champions for the whole of Eastern Europe and you're already beating your chest.

                    America is second best to Britain only and this could change very soon. You can laugh at PBC fighters, but who can beat guys like Robert Easter jr or the Charlo's besides other Americans?

                    Just because they aren't recognized by this new breed of boxing fans, doesn't mean they don't exist. The American public is in need of white heroes, the success of African American fighters makes them feel insecure, so they turn to Eastern Europeans. Hence why Eastern Europeans are getting more support and recognition at the moment.

                    But I would like to ask this question, are you Asian? Because I've seen a trend with Asian fans propping up non black fighters because they'd rather see any other race of fighters succeed over black americans, again because of deep set insecurities.

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                    • Kigali
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by bigdramashow
                      Im from the UK, the one with the most champs in the world. Its not just me who considers them boring though is it, even their own country doesnt tune in to watch them two. And im certainly not a wlad fan thats for sure...
                      UK by way of Pa.kistan

                      What most Champions?

                      NONE of those guys are in for the long haul.

                      Brook has Spence's belt around his waist and is mandated to fight him.

                      You can get ready to scratch him.

                      Degale is more average than Brook...he won't get past Jack Badou.

                      Frampton ain't shi/t to write home about.

                      Most Champions

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