Comments Thread For: Golovkin Would Consider 154 For Pacquiao, Says Sanchez

[Mike D]

WTF is this ****?? ****ing Jessie Vargas is towering over Manny's little ass. Jesus Christ just lost all respect for this trainer. And if Bob is seriously considering GGG vs Pac then he needs to sit his senile ass down. Is he trying to get Pac killed?

Arum was joking. Even he admitted that he'd be basically risking Manny's life if it were to actually happen.

[aldo5408]

Manny uses Golovkin for target practice for a few rounds and then gets stopped. Quite possibly brutally.

There's just no way that I could envision a scenario in which Manny makes it to see the final bell.

Gg stopping Manny p? Not in this lifetime

[LoadedWraps]

Manny uses Golovkin for target practice for a few rounds and then gets stopped. Quite possibly brutally.

There's just no way that I could envision a scenario in which Manny makes it to see the final bell.

Yup. Manny would get stopped.

GGG is too big (So was Margarito but GGG has faster feet and higher ring IQ and a better jab) and Manny has poor defense. His legs won't save him because GGG can cut the ring off so well.

It Pac could make it competitive for a while it would be fun to watch, the style clash, but even a prime Pac would get eaten alive even if they were the same size. GGG is all wrong for him.

Resume wise, Pac is a good name on any resume, he isn't that gone yet, but I would still rather see Canelo or Ward get carried out on a stretcher over anyone else right now.

[Robbie Barrett]

Never happen. Why would Pacquiao fight Golovkin when he could make more money fighting Canelo at the same weight?

[Mike D]

Yup. Manny would get stopped.

Manny has poor defense. His legs won't save him because GGG can cut the ring off so well.

Disagree, Wraps. Manny's obviously no Floyd, and he isn't known for his defense by any means...but it's far from poor. I think his defense is underrated. Sure it can be leaky at times and it has holes in it -- he certainly is there to be hit at times, but poor is a strong word. Poor is Brandon Rios. Poor (at this point) is Robert Guerrero. Those guys eat shots all day. I'd call it at minimum average, to even above average. For example something that gets lost in the Manny/Floyd fight is that Floyd landed a career low in punches. Career low.

Think about it...Floyd threw a hundred LESS punches in the second Maidana fight than he did in the Pac fight...and still landed more on Marcos than he did Pacquiao. Floyd is/was considered one of the most accurate punchers in the sport, even if he was never known for his offense, and yet he never landed fewer shots in his career than he did against a supposedly sub par defensive fighter in Pacquiao.

but even a prime Pac would get eaten alive even if they were the same size. GGG is all wrong for him

Gotta disagree here as well.

Pound for pound I think a prime Manny eats Gennady alive. He'd use 3G's head for target practice for all 12 rounds and win a lopsided UD.

[LoadedWraps]

Disagree, Wraps. Manny's obviously no Floyd, and he isn't known for his defense by any means...but it's far from poor. I think his defense is underrated. Sure it can be leaky at times and it has holes in it -- he certainly is there to be hit at times, but poor is a strong word. Poor is Brandon Rios. Poor (at this point) is Robert Guerrero. Those guys eat shots all day. I'd call it at minimum average, to even above average. For example something that gets lost in the Manny/Floyd fight is that Floyd landed a career low in punches. Career low.

Think about it...Floyd threw a hundred LESS punches in the second Maidana fight than he did in the Pac fight...and still landed more on Marcos than he did Pacquiao. Floyd is/was considered one of the most accurate punchers in the sport, even if he was never known for his offense, and yet he never landed fewer shots in his career than he did against a supposedly sub par defensive fighter in Pacquiao.



Gotta disagree here as well.

Pound for pound I think a prime Manny eats Gennady alive. He'd use 3G's head for target practice for all 12 rounds and win a lopsided UD.

Yea, we will have to agree to disagee on this stuff lol.

That was a rematch with Maidana, that' makes all the difference in the world, especially for Floyd. Not really comparable imo. If he rematched Pac he would badly mess him up a second time around imo.

I think Pac would outpunch GGG because of workrate and speed, but I don't see Pac ever being able to really hurt Golovkin, wheras I see Golovkin adapting fairly easily to Pacs reduntant rythym of 1-2's and predictable head movement and the way he bounces around. Pac is off balance way too often, he would be getting hit a lot as well and I give Golovkin the edge in chin, and ring IQ.

It would more or less be like Khan/Canelo except GGG is much more adept at getting you out and closing the distance than Canelo is, and Pac has a much better chin and stronger punches than Khan does, but I see it being similar in that Pac would be ahead in workrate and on the cards possibly but ultimately get stopped.

[Mike D]

That was a rematch with Maidana, that' makes all the difference in the world, especially for Floyd.

Floyd landed on Maidana at a rate of 54% in their first fight. In their second fight -- he actually landed at a slightly lesser rate of 51%.

Against Pacquiao he landed at a 34% rate and landed a career low in punches.

You don't do that if you're a "poor" defensive fighter. And if that's poor...what does that make Maidana, who got hit with 1 out of every 2 punches? Horrific?

[BrometheusBob.]

Pac isn't suited to fight a guy GGG's size. The only intrigue would come from the fact that GGG would be a skeleton at 154. There would be a possibility of GGG getting ODLH'd, but that comes with the more likely risk of Pac getting horribly stopped.

Roach/Koncz/Arum know this and would never approve of this fight.

[Mike D]

Now granted I'm just using 1 fight in particular as an example. So it could be an outlier. I do think early on Manny was a poor defensive fighter (back when he burst onto the scene in America)...he was all offense. His offense was his defense.

But as he matured into a more well rounded fighter, his defense has been much, much better than people give him credit for. Sometimes I think people still think of the completely one dimensional Manny that first showed up on the scene back after the Ledwaba fight.

[b00g13man]

Shameful shit.