Floyd's Gameplan to Beat pacquiao

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Lester Tutor
    Banned
    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
    • May 2015
    • 17673
    • 365
    • 253
    • 22,224

    #31
    Originally posted by Dip_Slide
    Thanks man, the most important thing we've learned in that fight is having educated feet is much more important than having fast feet, we've also learned that Pacquiao is mainly a counterpuncher and not just a brawler. I don't care what anyone say but I truly enjoyed watching this fight because that was a chess match at the highest level.
    was your analysis in slow motion or regular real world time like a general boxing match?

    Comment

    • KLockard23
      Interim Champion
      Gold Champion - 500-1,000 posts
      • Oct 2015
      • 791
      • 30
      • 3
      • 7,162

      #32
      Meh. Manny would win the rematch, provided he was motivated enough. I even thought his performance against Floyd was underrated, far from the "schooling" people say it was.

      Comment

      • Dip_Slide
        Undisputed Champion
        Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
        • Oct 2015
        • 2655
        • 240
        • 11
        • 34,495

        #33
        Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
        was your analysis in slow motion or regular real world time like a general boxing match?
        I see what you did there.

        Comment

        • Lester Tutor
          Banned
          Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
          • May 2015
          • 17673
          • 365
          • 253
          • 22,224

          #34
          Originally posted by Dip_Slide
          I see what you did there.

          Comment

          • Mike D
            Abnormal Human Being
            Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
            • Jul 2012
            • 13069
            • 1,747
            • 2,352
            • 73,360

            #35
            Originally posted by KLockard23
            Meh. Manny would win the rematch, provided he was motivated enough. I even thought his performance against Floyd was underrated, far from the "schooling" people say it was.
            Anybody who thinks that **** was a "schooling" is delusional.

            Boxing circles around somebody for 12 rounds and toying with them is a schooling. This **** was an 8-4, 9-3 type of fight where Floyd edged out the rounds he won. They weren't dominant rounds, lmao. The guy landed a career low for f**k's sake, and didn't register one single memorable moment in the fight. In fact the very few biggest punches that were landed in the fight came from Pacquiao.

            Look I give Floyd credit -- he won the fight. He did. I don't dispute that. But anybody who thinks it was a "schooling" don't know what the f**k a "schooling" is.

            It was like two NFL teams with ****ty offenses battling it out and the final score ending up 9-3.

            Comment

            • IMDAZED
              Fair but Firm
              Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
              • May 2006
              • 42644
              • 1,134
              • 1,770
              • 67,152

              #36
              One thing that people either don't see, or fail to admit--and was more apparent eight weeks later against Berto--is that Floyd was faded when he fought Pacquiao. I don't want to say washed up but faded, past his best and maybe burnt out.

              Comment

              • b00g13man
                Undisputed Champion
                Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                • Dec 2012
                • 12197
                • 265
                • 51
                • 34,905

                #37
                Originally posted by Dip_Slide
                The game plan was similar to the one he used against Marquez, never stay stationary, never throw more than 2-3 punches at a time against a counterpuncher like Marquez, use a lot of feints and use the jab a lot, only Floyd Mayweather can stick to that kind of game plan against a guy like Marquez or Pacquiao for 12 rounds. Pacquiao is a prolific counterpuncher in close and that's a big part of his game, he'd use his footwork and throw flurries at you, see how u react, then feint like he's gonna get in again to draw the counter out of you then counter your counter and he had the power to really hurt you, Floyd nullified all that for most of the fight.

                Manny's offensive footwork wasn't a concern for Floyd at all since he knew he can easily nullify that by pivoting and turning Pacquiao everytime he tried to launch an attack, the blueprint for Floyd imo was the Shane Mosley fight, Shane was clearly past it and he was never known to be a mover but by using simple backward and pivoting movements he managed to have Pacquiao lunge in and lose his balance all night, if Pacquiao couldn't cut off Shane and trap him on the ropes, noway in hell he was gonna be able to do it against Floyd Mayweather. Floyd's only concern was Pacquiao's counterpunching ability and that's why he never commited nor was he ever in range, and his worries were justified because the 2-3 good punches Pacquiao landed in the fight were counterpunches, so he did a good job of deciphering Manny's style.

                Floyd could've/should've thrown more punches late, the left upper cut followed by the right hand or the right hand left hook combo would've worked late but he was way to cautios especially with the hook but when he threw it he was very successful with it.
                That was the fight that confirmed what I already knew about giving Manny only a puncher's chance only vs Floyd.

                Comment

                • SplitSecond
                  Undisputed Champion
                  Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 23151
                  • 1,715
                  • 1,187
                  • 85,044

                  #38
                  Start quick to earn respect, then just touch and turn him. Literally his words when explaining Pacquiao's style of flurrying to make you open up and then countering you with a big punch, Floyds strategy was to just "touch, touch and turn him, touch touch, and turn him", and that's all he did all night while eating much bigger punches, he lost the fight but won the boxing match. The gameplan was basically to make no fight out of it, he wanted nothing to do with Pacquiao, just neutralized any action.
                  Last edited by SplitSecond; 11-03-2016, 07:08 AM.

                  Comment

                  • Deevel916
                    Undisputed Champion
                    Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 7068
                    • 282
                    • 47
                    • 13,675

                    #39
                    His gameplan was to nullify Pac's offense while throwing scoring punches to steal rounds. Nothing that Floyd threw had any real mustard on it but his gamelan wasn't to try and take Pac out anyway. Floyd is a round stealer. Wasn't pleasant to watch but it works for him.

                    In Floyd's fights with Canelo and Pac, there were rounds where Floyd did very little yet the judges gave him the round. I would rewind it just to see if there was something I missed and there's nothing I could find that would warrant giving Floyd the round. Maybe his opponent didnt do much either but it seems to me that Floyd always gets the benefit of the doubt in close rounds even if/when he's being outworked.

                    In the case of his fight with Canelo. Most rounds were very close with neither fighter doing much or actually dominating the round, yet every single round went to Floyd. Now I'm not saying that Floyd didnt win that fight because he did. What I'm saying is, the judges scored every single close or even round for Floyd.

                    Comment

                    • Dip_Slide
                      Undisputed Champion
                      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                      • Oct 2015
                      • 2655
                      • 240
                      • 11
                      • 34,495

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Deevel916
                      His gameplan was to nullify Pac's offense while throwing scoring punches to steal rounds. Nothing that Floyd threw had any real mustard on it but his gamelan wasn't to try and take Pac out anyway. Floyd is a round stealer. Wasn't pleasant to watch but it works for him.

                      In Floyd's fights with Canelo and Pac, there were rounds where Floyd did very little yet the judges gave him the round. I would rewind it just to see if there was something I missed and there's nothing I could find that would warrant giving Floyd the round. Maybe his opponent didnt do much either but it seems to me that Floyd always gets the benefit of the doubt in close rounds even if/when he's being outworked.

                      In the case of his fight with Canelo. Most rounds were very close with neither fighter doing much or actually dominating the round, yet every single round went to Floyd. Now I'm not saying that Floyd didnt win that fight because he did. What I'm saying is, the judges scored every single close or even round for Floyd.
                      114-114 6-6

                      116-112 8-4

                      117-11 9-3

                      How come they gave EVERY round to Floyd?

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP