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  • rrayvez
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    #111
    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
    You are comparing Lewis to GGG. You used Lewis as an example. GGG not only sold only 150k PPV he's coming off his lowest rated HBO fight since before Murray.
    I'm comparing scenarios, not the fighters. Ggg isn't as popular as Lewis was just like Canelo isn't as popular as tyson was. But the scenarios are similar.

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    • TOBYLEE1
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      #112
      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
      actually, it is reasonably common for a champion to get first shot at the champion 1 division higher..... and not just with the WBO

      it used to be part of the WBC rules, not sure if it still is, I think it may have changed to their discretion
      A shot for the title is one thing but making him the mando is another

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      • rrayvez
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        #113
        Originally posted by Shadoww702
        Very clever to try and flip flop my quote but it's full of inaccuracies as Canelo has not "sold out" arenas in all of those locations BUT only in NV and TX nor are your ggg ppv numbers and prices from $60 to $16 accurate to show dwindling popularity. At the end of the day, I'm siding with the fighter that wants the fight to happen and you're siding with the fighter and promotional company who clearly have continuously avoided paying decent $$$$ to fight good fighters. You, just like them are probably scared to see GGG get a loss so you will agree with the coked up tales of "CRAZY MONEY" offered AND Jacobs IS WORTH more than $25%
        this may be hard for you to comprehend but I'm not a ggg fan. Im a boxing fan who wants to see the fight get made and I can clearly see that Canelo and golden boy don't want the fight but they play games to make it seem as if they do in order to save face. It's baffling to me how anyone can even defend Canelo after all of his nonsense with fighting amir khan who hasn't been a champion in any division for 4 yrs, playing games with catch weights for 3 yrs, and refusing to weigh in on the day of the fight. And yes, Danny Jacob's is worth more than 25% but him asking for another tune up fight before facing ggg is a joke since he just came off 2 fights with Sergio mora.

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        • Shadoww702
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          #114
          Originally posted by aboutfkntime
          that is pretty-much what I think

          if Canelo fought BJS/Jacobs/Lemiuex, or maybe even Eubank, he would likely generate 400k-500k

          Cotto/Canelo will likely generate 700k-800k PPV's

          Canelo/Golovkin could generate those numbers, but would most likely be around 500k-700k....

          ..... Canelo would likely get 60%, or at least 55%, and Cotto would be much easier to negotiate with as well as to fight

          hard to imagine that fight not happening, unfortunately

          Golovkin should have taken the 10mil just to secure that fight, because Canelo will fight Saunders after Cotto
          What would the Canelo vs. Liam Smith PPV buys of been if they were selling for $16 like Brook and GGG's fight went for???

          I didn't buy it for $70 but SHT I would of bought it for $16 and had a BBQ!!!

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          • whoseyourdaddy
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            #115
            Originally posted by Garcia's Dad
            Yes, just like Pac should have taken the flat $40m offer that Foyd made, that you and other idiots on this site implored him to take up. Take the damn money, Pac, said the business geniuses of BoxingScene.

            And like all you idiots used to say at the time....."where else is Pac gonna make $40m in one fight?"

            Same posts, same questions. Same idiocy.
            Dumb ass the difference here is that Manny wanted the fight desperately, while in this case is GGG who wants the fight not the other way around.

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              #116
              Originally posted by rrayvez
              this may be hard for you to comprehend but I'm not a ggg fan.Im a boxing fan who wants to see the fight get made and I can clearly see that Canelo and golden boy don't want the fight but they play games to make it seem as if they do in order to save face. It's baffling to me how anyone can even defend Canelo after all of his nonsense with fighting amir khan who hasn't been a champion in any division for 4 yrs, playing games with catch weights for 3 yrs, and refusing to weigh in on the day of the fight. And yes, Danny Jacob's is worth more than 25% but him asking for another tune up fight before facing ggg is a joke since he just came off 2 fights with Sergio mora.
              You confused the SHT out of me??? And I call BS!!!! And why did you ONLY bring up Khan vs. CanYELLOW and NOT GGG vs. Brook??? And I call BS!!!! AGAIN

              "And refusing to weigh in on the day of the fight" LOL...I'm sure this ONLY applies to CanYELLOW for U.

              "Jacob's is worth more than 25% but him asking for another tune up fight before facing ggg is a joke since he just came off 2 fights with Sergio mora. - Then CALL his BLUFF??? Again I call BS!!!

              "I'm not a ggg fan" YES you ARE. Don't lie man. ANYONE who reads your post can spot you a mile away.

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              • icha
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                #117
                Originally posted by TOBYLEE1
                A shot for the title is one thing but making him the mando is another
                a guy on house arrest became a mando, this is boxing...

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                  #118
                  Give Canelo his 25% mandatory split lol

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                  • Mr.MojoRisin'
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                    #119
                    Bro was trying to tell me on another thread that GGG would get a shot at the WBO before Canelo lmao

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by rrayvez
                      Jesus I feel like I'm speaking to 3rd graders when I talk boxing with a Canelo fan. It's not about comparing ggg to Lewis or Canelo to tyson or any if that. Again, it's about the demand for a fight. Holyfield was more popular than Lewis and had several successful ppvs. Lewis only big ppv fight before tyson was vs holyfield. So it's a fact that holyfield was a bigger name than Lewis. But Lewis vs tyson outsold tyson vs holyfield because the public was more intrigued by that fight than they were with tyson vs holyfield because the perception was holyfield was on the decline when he fought tyson. Cotto is a bigger name than ggg but the perception was that he was too old and small to beat Canelo. Similar to what people thought about holyfield vs tyson. Ggg is seen as a prime champion who would likely beat the bigger named star in Canelo. Just like Lewis was seen as a favorite to beat the more popular tyson so it added to the intrigue. That's why I think Canelo vs ggg can surpass cotto vs Canelo ppv sales.
                      So who is intrigued by GGG vs Alvarez other than die hard boxing fans? Wouldn't casual fans need to know who GGG is to be intrigued by the fight? Popularity feeds the intrigue of a casual.

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