Serious question regarding where Boxing stands

[Hewito]

girl, what are you blabbering about. unless you're Beercules' alt, then you shouldn't be following my nuts. Beercules is mad Pac fan... the OP listed why heads aren't talking about Pac anymore...

you should know this because you've been following my nuts throughout this thread regarding that..

I am guessing I am the OP..how in the world you figure I ask why people arent following/talking about PAC anymore,I was quite clear,asking if Boxing was in decline,please explain if you dont mind.

[Bullrider]

People just need to stop raising their expectations and accept things as they are. It's a culture. It's ingrained in fighters that they're not supposed to fight 2-3 tough ones in a row. Andrade made an impressive come back and where is he now? Fighting another unknown guy. The disease is deep-rooted. The solution is to just root for the unknown guy and hope for an upset. I'm rooting for Danny Garcia's opponent, for example. Upsets may be rare buy they happen. It's fun. Try it.

[Hewito]

People just need to stop raising their expectations and accept things as they are. It's a culture. It's ingrained in fighters that they're not supposed to fight 2-3 tough ones in a row. Andrade made an impressive come back and where is he now? Fighting another unknown guy. The disease is deep-rooted. The solution is to just root for the unknown guy and hope for an upset. I'm rooting for Danny Garcia's opponent, for example. Upsets may be rare buy they happen. It's fun. Try it.

I've done it,but there are certain fights that you know there is no way in hell the underdog has the slightest chance to win,I guess,if for example,you/me follow danny garcia and fights Sammy Vargas,we all excited since we know he will look good,the problem is that I think he needs better fights,so even my interest fades..Makes sense?

[Lester Tutor]

You have posted three times in this thread but have contributed absolutely zero,you are way off topic and haven't even talk about your thoughts on this matter.With all due respect,out of your 3,000+ posts,how many are as deep and objective as the ones you posted here?

the thread title could be applied to any month of the year, in the past or in the future...

NSB helps boxing. stop crying dude. it's all good. you want ''serious'' answers go message Fat Dan..

[Bullrider]

I've done it,but there are certain fights that you know there is no way in hell the underdog has the slightest chance to win,I guess,if for example,you/me follow danny garcia and fights Sammy Vargas,we all excited since we know he will look good,the problem is that I think he needs better fights,so even my interest fades..Makes sense?

I see your point. On a side note, there's gotta be a way to fund these underdogs' training, even for psychological reasons by means of donations. Let's face it, these guys don't have the budget to hire training professionals in their camps. They make do with what they have.

Some enterprising individual needs to start some kind of crowd funding or something for these lowly underdogs. Fans need to take action. Mismatched fights will be far more interesting if this happens.

[Hewito]

the thread title could be applied to any month of the year, in the past or in the future...

NSB helps boxing. stop crying dude. it's all good. you want ''serious'' answers go message Fat Dan..

It is incredible,your answers make me cringe..I am not crying as is a conversation,and I am not sure how you figure.you said I asked why people isnt following or talking about PAC,is not true,So either you cannot have a decent conversation or you have no education,using "fat Dan,nuts,etc"..Crazy stuff.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Boxing just has no structure. It is horribly ran, has been since the late 80s, and it's totally alienated casual fans for a generation now. It's been a slow drip for years, but now you are seeing the full effects.

It's a combination of factors:

Moved from network TV to premium channels and PPv, missing out on the average fan. Having the big fights on PPV doesn't really hurt as much as not having network TV access

Horrible matchmaking, pre-PBC nearly all the major fights were not on network TV, the only ones on network TV were total mismatches which pretty much killed network card ratings to the point that they got cancelled: world wide of sports, Tuesday night fights, tnt fights, etc

Top guys not fighting each other in timely manner.. The 70s and 90s were both loaded with heavyweight talent, but the difference was that the guys from the 70s fought each other all in timely manner.. We had to wait years for tyson v evander, lennox, etc bowe-holyfield was about the only big fight that happened in a timely manner.

Too many belts, too many sanctioning bodies, too many paper champs... Way too confusing for an average fan to understand. This is one of the most damaging things to boxing.. Most of the rankings make no sense, and way too many mediocre fighters find themselves in eliminators or title fights

[Hewito]

I see your point. On a side note, there's gotta be a way to fund these underdogs' training, even for psychological reasons by means of donations. Let's face it, these guys don't have the budget to hire training professionals in their camps. They make do with what they have.

Some enterprising individual needs to start some kind of crowd funding or something for these lowly underdogs. Fans need to take action. Mismatched fights will be far more interesting if this happens.

I heard Thompson has some funding,as he is a promoter in the inland empire area,in fact,bradley started with him.That thompson guy has a lot of money..But yeah,did you ever watched solo boxeo?,I think Canelo fought there against cottos brother,when he almost got ko..those fights were great,a dn the commentator if you spoke spanisg made sense and had a passion about it(osuna and celis).I miss those days.

[Hewito]

Boxing just has no structure. It is horribly ran, has been since the late 80s, and it's totally alienated casual fans for a generation now. It's been a slow drip for years, but now you are seeing the full effects.

It's a combination of factors:

Moved from network TV to premium channels and PPv, missing out on the average fan. Having the big fights on PPV doesn't really hurt as much as not having network TV access

Horrible matchmaking, pre-PBC nearly all the major fights were not on network TV, the only ones on network TV were total mismatches which pretty much killed network card ratings to the point that they got cancelled: world wide of sports, Tuesday night fights, tnt fights, etc

Top guys not fighting each other in timely manner.. The 70s and 90s were both loaded with heavyweight talent, but the difference was that the guys from the 70s fought each other all in timely manner.. We had to wait years for tyson v evander, lennox, etc bowe-holyfield was about the only big fight that happened in a timely manner.

Too many belts, too many sanctioning bodies, too many paper champs... Way too confusing for an average fan to understand. This is one of the most damaging things to boxing.. Most of the rankings make no sense, and way too many mediocre fighters find themselves in eliminators or title fights

I agree with you.I remember watching a fight and someone was asking ,who is the champ,I said both,soooo whoever wins becomes champion of champions?..no,there are 3 more champions!

[Bullrider]

I heard Thompson has some funding,as he is a promoter in the inland empire area,in fact,bradley started with him.That thompson guy has a lot of money..But yeah,did you ever watched solo boxeo?,I think Canelo fought there against cottos brother,when he almost got ko..those fights were great,a dn the commentator if you spoke spanisg made sense and had a passion about it(osuna and celis).I miss those days.

Proper training is important. A good result depends on it, probably ninety percent. I mean you look at established guys like Pacquiao, yet still needs all the training he can get. It isn't cheap.