Comments Thread For: Schaefer: Golovkin Deserves a Split, Team Canelo Being Unfair!

[robertzimmerman]

Your logic is flawed fool he don't generate the cash you think he does, only time he fought overseas and was on ppv Hearn was the brains behind it, he had to travel and k2 had nothing to do with it, you are hyping him up to generate these enormous amounts of money overseas which he can't and saying let him get all international money, you think goldenboy wouldn't jump on that? They would really look like thieves that's why loeffler and co want a % this isn't no Floyd/PAC and no country is going pay big broadcasting fees to carry fight

He didn't HAVE to travel to the U.K.

He wanted to travel to the U.K. to fight Eubank, to expand his fan base.

[BluDivision]

International money isn't what you think it is. Even in the UK, PPV fights are priced at $22 (USD). That means $11 dollars goes to the promotion. I can't imagine any other country in Europe charging more than the UK

Well in America the PPV's are $70. The money is severely different. That's why all boxers wanna fight in America. They wanna fight in Las Vegas where you can charge ridiculous prices for tickets. Check the highest gates in boxing. 7 out of 10 will be in Vegas.

All that money added up won't help the way it should. Not to mention the time differences means you'll know the results before you even see the fight. A live broadcast might have to be at 4am. America for boxing is where it's at.

Compare Klitschko & Mayweather.

What do you not get? His purse for the fight plus international PPV money gets him more than the flat fee offered by Golden boy. You realise that the purse for the fight and PPV splits are different right? Not hyping him up. I am trying to get my point across.
For example Canelo got a guarenteed $5 Million which excluded the PPV money. Where as Cotto got $15 Million excluding PPV money. Against Khan, Canelo made $10 Million guarenteed excluding PPV money.
Am pretty sure Golovkin make a hell of a lot more than the $10 million flat fee if they offer him $5 million guarentee plus all international PPV moneys. How you do not see this is baffling. Even if K2 use thier contacts and have Hearn or whomever is the best promoter in the various countries and only take 50% of the PPV money from those countries they would still be able to give Golovkin more than $5 million easy.

[BluDivision]

GGG had to fly to the UK to make the $5 Mil. They couldn't generate that type of revenue anywhere else or with any other opponent.

And yes it did expand his fan base.

He didn't HAVE to travel to the U.K.

He wanted to travel to the U.K. to fight Eubank, to expand his fan base.

[robertzimmerman]

First you need the willing, and sorry but i dont see that on ggg and his team... they are fully into business mode without having paid dues yet...

Nonsense.

How many people have swerved him at MW within the last few years?

[IR0NFIST]

"60/40 I kick yo azz" - Gennady Golovkin

[SchoolTheseCats]

International money isn't what you think it is. Even in the UK, PPV fights are priced at $22 (USD). That means $11 dollars goes to the promotion. I can't imagine any other country in Europe charging more than the UK

Well in America the PPV's are $70. The money is severely different. That's why all boxers wanna fight in America. They wanna fight in Las Vegas where you can charge ridiculous prices for tickets. Check the highest gates in boxing. 7 out of 10 will be in Vegas.

All that money added up won't help the way it should. Not to mention the time differences means you'll know the results before you even see the fight. A live broadcast might have to be at 4am. America for boxing is where it's at.

Compare Klitschko & Mayweather.

He don't understand that what he said triple G wouldn't even come away with 15mil taking in all international ppv sells because it won't even be a international ppv on the scope of Floyd/PAC which he been arguing it will have same international broadcasting as canelo/cotto

[robertzimmerman]

Canelo can offer more revenue to BJS than GGG. Alvarez is the bigger draw. Not to mention BJS has to like his chances better against Canelo.

Yes, but when's Canelo fighting next, and when will he be in a position to make BJS the offer?

If I was in Loeffler's position, I'd honestly think about asking the WBA for an extension if Jacobs' team can't commit to a date.

I've just heard Frank Warren say that the WBO no longer require BJS to fight back to back mandatories. After his fight on November the 26th, he'll be able to have a voluntary. So I'd be looking at going all out to obtain a BJS fight for early next year.

[Bardock]

Canelo is not the biggest star compared to GGG is he? GGG has fans all over the world especially Europe and Asia. Canelo is a superstar but is probably only well known in Mexico and USA.

Yeah you are dumb as fck. lol ****** fanboy logic. Lets put it in perspective. Anybody who knows GGG knows Canelo, Canelo also has a whole country behind him and more fans in the fight capitol of the world. lol I dont get why ggg fans say this its ****** AF

[Jsmooth9876]

If this fight does 1 Mil (which would be incredible because both guys don't speak good english) you're only talking 35 Mil in PPV revunue to the promotion. Add maybe 5 Mil from gate money/ticket sales.

40 Million Dollars is the pot we are looking at... K2 will receive 10-15 Mil for the fight. The extra 5 mil is what they are fight over. At 15 mil, GGG's side will receive close to 40% of the revenue.

So I understand why Golden boy wants to stand firm at 10 Mil offer to GGG which would be 25% of the possible revenue. Maybe Oscar can offer 30% and call it a day. Who knows. What a dilemma 🤔

You're also forgetting the site fee which could be like 10 million if Jerry Jones gets involved. And beer sponsorship along with other ad revenue you see on the apron,ringside,etc... Then you have the money that Sky or boxnation pay to air the fight which is probably a couple million...

There's like 15 million more right there.

[AneesMoha]

International money isn't what you think it is. Even in the UK, PPV fights are priced at $22 (USD). That means $11 dollars goes to the promotion. I can't imagine any other country in Europe charging more than the UK

Well in America the PPV's are $70. The money is severely different. That's why all boxers wanna fight in America. They wanna fight in Las Vegas where you can charge ridiculous prices for tickets. Check the highest gates in boxing. 7 out of 10 will be in Vegas.

All that money added up won't help the way it should. Not to mention the time differences means you'll know the results before you even see the fight. A live broadcast might have to be at 4am. America for boxing is where it's at.

Compare Klitschko & Mayweather.

Scandanavia, Russia and the Emirates all charge more than the UK. Also the time difference are solved by the DVR and VOD options which is big in those countries. The argument still stands that Golovkin could make more than the $10 million flat fee in part by using international PPV. You make valid points though.