Jacobs was paid 1.5 millions just because of Quillin

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  • pacmanis1
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    #41
    People always say Jacobs should get more than 1.5 million because that's what he made against Quillin but if I said GGG should get more than 4 million because that's what he got for Brook and Jacobs is more dangerous I'd be called and idiot, and rightfully so.

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      #42
      Originally posted by _Maxi
      When did I say that it wasn't this way? that's the reason why Quillin vacated, yes.

      And the reason why Jacobs got the same money is because he was also a Haymon fighter and he wanted the same money Quillin was making. Otherwise there was no way he was getting that purse.
      Jacobs-Quillin was a fight that things have been built to for a while, the fight was looked at as being a big fight in NYC, and Quillin having a higher profile with Jacobs bringing the belt, in essence, made the fight 50/50 financially.

      Jacobs took the fight, won it in impressive fashion and is positioned for the next opportunity.

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        #43
        Originally posted by don larryx
        In the same breath you just tried to legitimate GGG's regular title while ****ting on Jacobs...just ******
        no, he didn't; he tried to turn Golovkin knocking off some stumblebum for the interim WBA title as the bout that made Golovkin the uncrowned king, lol.

        give folks enough rope...

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          #44
          Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
          Any theory that perhaps prolonging the Jacobs deal would result in the same scenario as Quillin did against Korobov? Meaning, the hope that Jacobs vacates the belt and not interested in the purse bid? I wonder if Loeffler feels that Haymon would advise Jacobs to drop his regular strap.
          Jacobs without a middleweight title is worth far less to PBC/Showtime/Haymon, so I doubt anyone tells Jacobs to give up the only chit that puts him into the top conversation.

          I think I've been pretty consistent on this line of thinking, but I earnestly believe that Loeffler can figure that Jacobs and Co are up for the fight, to the point that, were the fight to go to formal bids, K2's business with HBO will be put at risk

          (The moment that Billy Joe Saunders chose not to engage in making a fight with Jacobs, with Alvarez not being an option, Golovkin instantly became Jacobs' top target).

          Because, as the Sergio Mora rematch seemed to have shown, the other viable options for Jacobs aren't all that plentiful.

          Haymon paying Golovkin a flat fee (whatever the price ends up being) to come to the Barclays Center and over to Showtime to give Brooklyn's "favorite son" a fight (not all that different from the deal that Eddie Hearn cut to bring Golovkin over to the UK without having an opponent locked in) isn't all that bad an idea.

          Would Loeffler advise Golovkin to simply give up the WBA 160lb belt? Possibly ("hey Gennady, I know this hurts now, but holding onto the belt adds an additional barrier to the Alvarez fight than we can be bothered with. let's beat Alvarez, and then we can double back for the belt later)

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            #45
            Originally posted by _Maxi
            Quillin was offered 1.4 millions to fight.. Kovorov? and he declined and vacated the WBO belt, because Haymon promised him the same money in the future.

            Then he got to fight Jacobs and Quillin was getting paid 1.5 because that's what Haymon had offered to him if he vacated that belt, and Jacobs got the same because both were Haymon fighters. But in reality it would be a fight with 700k for both max.

            Now he uses that ****ty argument to say he needs to be paid more. BS. You don't deserve more you interim champion that can't sell.
            No **** that s why I stated in other post that Haymon should come up with the difference to make the fight happen .

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              #46
              Originally posted by pacmanis1
              People always say Jacobs should get more than 1.5 million because that's what he made against Quillin but if I said GGG should get more than 4 million because that's what he got for Brook and Jacobs is more dangerous I'd be called and idiot, and rightfully so.
              Daniel Jacobs deserves a significant share on the fight; whether than number is $1.5m or more is beyond me. If K2 doesn't want to right a check up front, why not split the event on the backside?

              K2 doesn't want to give up 40%, and 25% is likely a lowball share for value on the fight; split the difference.

              Stage the event where the most money can be made, Golovkin gets a guaranteed $1.5m, Jacobs gets a guaranteed $1m, and Jacobs gets 32% of whatever the event brings in above that.

              Not too complicated' just make the fight

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                #47
                Originally posted by Scipio2009
                Jacobs without a middleweight title is worth far less to PBC/Showtime/Haymon, so I doubt anyone tells Jacobs to give up the only chit that puts him into the top conversation.

                I think I've been pretty consistent on this line of thinking, but I earnestly believe that Loeffler can figure that Jacobs and Co are up for the fight, to the point that, were the fight to go to formal bids, K2's business with HBO will be put at risk

                (The moment that Billy Joe Saunders chose not to engage in making a fight with Jacobs, with Alvarez not being an option, Golovkin instantly became Jacobs' top target).

                Because, as the Sergio Mora rematch seemed to have shown, the other viable options for Jacobs aren't all that plentiful.

                Haymon paying Golovkin a flat fee (whatever the price ends up being) to come to the Barclays Center and over to Showtime to give Brooklyn's "favorite son" a fight (not all that different from the deal that Eddie Hearn cut to bring Golovkin over to the UK without having an opponent locked in) isn't all that bad an idea.

                Would Loeffler advise Golovkin to simply give up the WBA 160lb belt? Possibly ("hey Gennady, I know this hurts now, but holding onto the belt adds an additional barrier to the Alvarez fight than we can be bothered with. let's beat Alvarez, and then we can double back for the belt later)
                Jacobs nor Golovkin are campaigning in the WBO. The most likely scenario is Alvarez vs Saunders, and again, BJS in interviews welcomes the Alvarez fight more than anyone, and said willing to cross the pond with Warren already loving the AT&T stadium experience and what GBP pulled off. GBP can offer 3.5 to Saunders

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                • _Maxi
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Scipio2009
                  Jacobs-Quillin was a fight that things have been built to for a while, the fight was looked at as being a big fight in NYC, and Quillin having a higher profile with Jacobs bringing the belt, in essence, made the fight 50/50 financially.

                  Jacobs took the fight, won it in impressive fashion and is positioned for the next opportunity.
                  The fight had 300k ratings and barely sold 8k seats.

                  WTF you talk about. Keep it real.

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                  • daggum
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                    #49
                    jacobs last fight was fought in the hometown of one of the undercard fighters on the card. he has no popularity. why should the whole world pretend he is popular? wouldn't it be easier if one person(jacobs) realized he wasn't popular.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Scipio2009
                      Quillin vacated because he ended up needing the time off


                      Talk about nice try.

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