Is The Ring Magazine P4P Top 10 Rankings a Joke?

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  • pesticid
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    #61
    Originally posted by 1hourRun
    How many weights should RG climb to impress you? hes at four theres another (118) before reaching 122 if anyone should move up its the guy that hasnt ( Rigo ) -- and I can tell you dont know what P4P means by the first part of your reply.....that was the original concept ; all things as equal whos skill would overcome...the answer is clear to me.
    When going up 10 pounds equals 4 divisions LOL, this is boxing for you.

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    • deathofaclown
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      #62
      How is Ward in there?

      Very good yes, but he hasn't beaten a good fighter for half a decade.

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        #63
        Originally posted by pesticid
        RG is the same size as Rigo, why wouldn't he fight him if he beats him? You know well damn why.

        Yeah and Pacquaio hasn't move more than RG, yet he is ancient and RG beats him cause he's lost a few times GTFO. Based on that ****** logic RG beats Thomas Hearns cause he got knocked out a few times. Let's face it you're ignorant.
        Robert Easter Jr is 5'11 fighting at 135 should he fight middleweights? I think you can verify Pacs age or are you arguing hes not old well past his prime? Hearns and Gonzalez would be a great fight but lets face it having a great chin tops punching power...last time I check RG has never been badly hurt despite climbing up in weight multiple times.

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          #64
          Originally posted by pesticid
          When going up 10 pounds equals 4 divisions LOL, this is boxing for you.
          Little do you know Andre Ward is the only other fighter in the P4P that has succefully added more weight provided he is victorious over Kovalev...thats very impressive considering the size of the flyweights-Jr Bantamweights...its impress in general as I said no other champion has put on so much weight and still is top 1-2 in his division in the sport.

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          • pesticid
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            #65
            Originally posted by 1hourRun
            Robert Easter Jr is 5'11 fighting at 135 should he fight middleweights? I think you can verify Pacs age or are you arguing hes not old well past his prime? Hearns and Gonzalez would be a great fight but lets face it having a great chin tops punching power...last time I check RG has never been badly hurt despite climbing up in weight multiple times.
            Yeah ok running off topic when you no longer make any sense.

            Cause Pacquiao is old now he can't beat people up anymore? Fact is even Pacquaio at this age and this weight is better than Roman. If Pacman and Roman are the same size, Pacman will tear Roman up in 6 rounds tops.

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              #66
              Originally posted by pesticid
              Yeah ok running off topic when you no longer make any sense.

              Cause Pacquiao is old now he can't beat people up anymore? Fact is even Pacquaio at this age and this weight is better than Roman. If Pacman and Roman are the same size, Pacman will tear Roman up in 6 rounds tops.
              Im only answering by your line of reasoning -- I know you dont like it when Im spitting logic...its a fact Robert Easter Jr is taller than than Golovkin but nobody would suggest ''oh well they are the same size'' as you compare Rigo-Gonzalez. Oh man! you said Pac is better than RG at this age????!!!! OMG Im done.

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                #67
                What I find silly is inconsistencies. A fighter is ranked in the top 10 p4p...but in the division they fight in, they're not #1. It's maddening. For example:

                Lomachencko is #7 p4p...but in Jr. Lightweight...he's #4
                Frampton is #10 p4p...but #2 in featherweight

                So where one ranking says "all things being equal" and if all combatants are the same size+weight...Loma is the 7th best in the world

                Unless there are multiple fighters in the same division in the top 10 p4p (e.g. Kov and Ward, which is another example...Ward is #4 in his division) then each fighter in the top 10 should be #1 in the division they operate in

                Just another argument as to the inherent ******ity of p4p

                "Hey guys, these are the top 10 fighters in the sport...except the division they fight in" It's ******.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by pesticid
                  No you can't make that claim cause if he were 6 5 and 240 he wouldn't be the same Chocolatico he is now.

                  This is not a video game you know
                  Ok...if 40 yr old wlad was 5'3 115lbs, he'd get wrecked by chocolatito.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by pesticid
                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ri...ound_for_Pound

                    Roman at # 1 and GGG at # 3, we have Frampton and Vasyl there too?

                    No Pacquaio, no Wlad, no Danny Garcia, no Adonis Stevenson but Roman, GGG, Frampton and Vasyl there?

                    I mean who has GGG beat to get there? Who has Vasyl beat there to get there? Roman, ok a few good wins but number 1?

                    Pacman loses to Floyd narrowly and is off the list? Wlad loses one fight after how many years of dominance and he's gone? I don't like Dany Garcia but he's got one of the best resumes in boxing but you have Frampton instead?
                    GGG may be hated on this board but he is highly respected and highly rated by most of the world. He is rated 1st, 2nd or 3rd best in the world by HBO, Boxing Scene, Boxrec,ESPN and many others. Just because you have a low opinion of him doesn't mean everyone else has to agree with you and clearly they don't. The only list of mine that Garcia is on is the biggest cherry picking champion list. He has yet to fight a welterweight worth a damn and if he actually ever fights Thurman that should tell us how good he is or isn't.

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                      #70
                      The only thing wrong with that list is that Rigondeaux and Yamanaka are ranked.

                      What has Rigondeaux done since 2013? Nothing! Besides stay inactive and then fight total bums. He literally fought a car salesman from the Philippines last year.

                      Yamanaka has no business being on the list either. If you're trying to make a case for whether or not Danny Garcia should be on the list, then I'll agree with you that he should replace Yamanaka.

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