Is The Ring Magazine P4P Top 10 Rankings a Joke?

[boliodogs]

Roman at # 1 just shows you how many hipsters and nerds there are in boxing

Count me as an old nerd who has bean a big boxing fan forever and a former army boxer who thinks Gonzalez is at least top 3. You certainly are hard on anybody with an opinion different than your own, I must say.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

You said Wlad hasnt fought in a year ( note he was stood up by Fury ) but you got Ward as your number #1. after years of inactivity to only fight Paul Smith, Barrera and Brand?

Ward wasn't beaten by a guy the caliber of fury... You can't get outpointed by a guy like fury and expect to maintain ranking.

[SteveM]

P4p is not a lifetime achievement award...wlad is washed up, if chocolatito was 6'5 240lbs he'd dominate wlad.

No. A big guys metabolism is slower. Take Wlad down to 112/115 and he would be moving much faster. Take a small guy like Roman up to HW and he's be moving slower.
It has to come down to skills and resume. Especially resume with a little bit of leeway given when you have fighters being avoided like Rigo and GGG - then you need to look at how they are dominating other fighters. So Golovkin doesn't have a great resume - at least look how he is dominating top ten fighters. That has to count for something.

The other deal is how far back to you go in time. I say take a fighters last 5 fights back and no further than 4 years. That allows for obviouly faded fighters to be dropped out and new rising stars (Loma) to be lifted into the top 10.

I'd have in my resume list but nor necessarily that order
Canelo
GGG
Kovalev
DeGale
Crawford
Loma
Gonzalez
Yamanaka
Frampton
Ward - he just squeezes in with tail end 2012 fights
Pac

Skill/ability list - Pick 10
Rigo
Loma
Mickey Garcia
Ward
Canelo
Inoue
Crawford
Pac
GGG
Kovalev
Frampton
Gonzalez
DeGale

[The Akbar One]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ri...ound_for_Pound

Roman at # 1 and GGG at # 3, we have Frampton and Vasyl there too?

No Pacquaio, no Wlad, no Danny Garcia, no Adonis Stevenson but Roman, GGG, Frampton and Vasyl there?

I mean who has GGG beat to get there? Who has Vasyl beat there to get there? Roman, ok a few good wins but number 1?

Pacman loses to Floyd narrowly and is off the list? Wlad loses one fight after how many years of dominance and he's gone? I don't like Dany Garcia but he's got one of the best resumes in boxing but you have Frampton instead?

Gonzalez maybe top five but definitely not number one. The Kovalev vs Ward winner should probably be number one. Frampton and Alvarez shouldn't be in the top 10 in my opinion.

[IMDAZED]

Are people out here complaining because Roman Gonzalez is #1 pound for pound in the eyes of some?

The guy with the 46-0 (38 KO's) record?

The four-division champion? Against stellar opposition?

He deserves top 3 at the very least.

The criteria should be resume (who you beat, when and how) and recent accomplishments. My p4p list is:

1. Gonzalez
2. Ward/Kovalev (to be #1 pending winner)
3. Crawford
4. Alvarez
5. Rigo
6. Estrada
7. Frampton
8. Garcia
9. Golovkin
10. Inoue/Stevenson

[pesticid]

Gonzalez maybe top five but definitely not number one. The Kovalev vs Ward winner should probably be number one. Frampton and Alvarez shouldn't be in the top 10 in my opinion.

I agree except for Alvarez shouldn't be on the list part.

[Canelo and GGG]

Are people out here complaining because Roman Gonzalez is #1 pound for pound in the eyes of some?

The guy with the 46-0 (38 KO's) record?

The four-division champion? Against stellar opposition?

He deserves top 3 at the very least.

The criteria should be resume (who you beat, when and how) and recent accomplishments. My p4p list is:

1. Gonzalez
2. Ward/Kovalev (to be #1 pending winner)
3. Crawford
4. Alvarez
5. Rigo
6. Estrada
7. Frampton
8. Garcia
9. Golovkin
10. Inoue/Stevenson

they complain cuse he midget doe pretty sad.

[pesticid]

Are people out here complaining because Roman Gonzalez is #1 pound for pound in the eyes of some?

The guy with the 46-0 (38 KO's) record?

The four-division champion? Against stellar opposition?

He deserves top 3 at the very least.

The criteria should be resume (who you beat, when and how) and recent accomplishments. My p4p list is:

1. Gonzalez
2. Ward/Kovalev (to be #1 pending winner)
3. Crawford
4. Alvarez
5. Rigo
6. Estrada
7. Frampton
8. Garcia
9. Golovkin
10. Inoue/Stevenson

4 divisions = 10 pounds.

Cuadras and Estradas are great names on his resume and he could've lost both fights.

[IMDAZED]

4 divisions = 10 pounds.

Cuadras and Estradas are great names on his resume and he could've lost both fights.

Well yeah, I assume pounds mean a lot more when you're that much more smaller. Which is why the leaps get bigger as the weight classes progress (105 to 108, 118 to 122, 140-147,160-168, 175 to 200).

And yes, he had close fights with other top fighters.

[Canelo and GGG]

Well yeah, I assume pounds mean a lot more when you're that much more smaller. Which is why the leaps get bigger as the weight classes progress (105 to 108, 118 to 122, 140-147,160-168, 175 to 200).

And yes, he had close fights with other top fighters.

atleast he fought them,it doesnt count anymore?? some guys beat bums(i hate this word but i will use it here) easy and they are P4P smh