Is The Ring Magazine P4P Top 10 Rankings a Joke?

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  • pesticid
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    #51
    Originally posted by 1hourRun
    1.Chocolatito
    2.Bud
    3.Ward
    4.Kovalev
    5.Canelo
    6.Loma
    7.Estrada
    8.Yamanka
    9.Swift
    10.Degale
    You don't even have Wlad and Pacquaio on your list, the two most accomplished guys in boxing. You don't have Rigondeaux on the list? I mean what kind of BS list are you having here?

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    • Madison Boxing
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      #52
      Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
      Yeah. I'm not quite sure you get what P4P is. What it ain't - or at least shouldn't be - is a popularity contest, however.
      i understand that the whole meaning of p4p is to take weight out of the equation, but i cant give p4p status to a fighter of weight class noones interested in. when you look at p4p greats youve got ali, mayweather, roy jones etc, cant have some midget as p4p number 1. just my opinion, if others disagree than fair enough

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      • Citizen Koba
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        #53
        Originally posted by bigdramashow
        i understand that the whole meaning of p4p is to take weight out of the equation, but i cant give p4p status to a fighter of weight class noones interested in. when you look at p4p greats youve got ali, mayweather, roy jones etc, cant have some midget as p4p number 1. just my opinion, if others disagree than fair enough
        P4P a whole big bag of pointlessness IMO, and you can have whoever you like on your list as far as I'm concerned, but I think most would say that being in a less popular weightclass should have no bearing on the matter.

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          #54
          Originally posted by pesticid
          You don't even have Wlad and Pacquaio on your list, the two most accomplished guys in boxing. You don't have Rigondeaux on the list? I mean what kind of BS list are you having here?
          Wlad,Pac and Rigo are relics, I think all these guys are reaching 40+ years of age....In the spirit of what true P4P means : If Roman Gonzalez was the same size as these guys there is no way that a euro-bot Klitsckho beats Gonzalez when Ross Puritty and Sanders sparked him clean...Pacquiao this guy has been put to sleep how many times? Rigo...this guy refuses to move up in weight despite his career slipping ; how many years ago did he fight a live body? its 2016. As another poster pointed out you are out of touch.

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            #55
            Originally posted by 1hourRun
            Wlad,Pac and Rigo are relics, I think all these guys are reaching 40+ years of age....In the spirit of what true P4P means : If Roman Gonzalez was the same size as these guys there is no way that a euro-bot Klitsckho beats Gonzalez when Ross Puritty and Sanders sparked him clean...Pacquiao this guy has been put to sleep how many times? Rigo...this guy refuses to move up in weight despite his career slipping ; how many years ago did he fight a live body? its 2016. As another poster pointed out you are out of touch.
            Wow, that's all I needed to know. If little Roman was the size of Pacquaio he would beat him, if he were the size of Wlad he would beat him, if he were the size of Rigo he would beat him. Guess what, Roman is the size of Rigo, they walk the same weight. Let Roman go up to Rigo and see how that works.

            You're a lost cause really.

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              #56
              Originally posted by pesticid
              Wow, that's all I needed to know. If little Roman was the size of Pacquaio he would beat him, if he were the size of Wlad he would beat him, if he were the size of Rigo he would beat him. Guess what, Roman is the size of Gonzales, they walk the same weight. Let Roman go up to Rigo and see how that works.

              You're a lost cause really.
              How many weights should RG climb to impress you? hes at four theres another (118) before reaching 122 if anyone should move up its the guy that hasnt ( Rigo ) -- and I can tell you dont know what P4P means by the first part of your reply.....that was the original concept ; all things as equal whos skill would overcome...the answer is clear to me.

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                #57
                Originally posted by pesticid
                You don't even have Wlad and Pacquaio on your list, the two most accomplished guys in boxing. You don't have Rigondeaux on the list? I mean what kind of BS list are you having here?
                Pac isn't ranked cause he retired, hasn't had his comeback fight yet. Wlad is out cause he lost, looked pathetic and hasn't fought in a year.

                The tbrb p4p is similar, youre just out of touch

                http://www.tbrb.org/p4p/

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by pesticid
                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ri...ound_for_Pound

                  Roman at # 1 and GGG at # 3, we have Frampton and Vasyl there too?

                  No Pacquaio, no Wlad, no Danny Garcia, no Adonis Stevenson but Roman, GGG, Frampton and Vasyl there?

                  I mean who has GGG beat to get there? Who has Vasyl beat there to get there? Roman, ok a few good wins but number 1?

                  Pacman loses to Floyd narrowly and is off the list? Wlad loses one fight after how many years of dominance and he's gone? I don't like Dany Garcia but he's got one of the best resumes in boxing but you have Frampton instead?
                  P4p is not a lifetime achievement award...wlad is washed up, if chocolatito was 6'5 240lbs he'd dominate wlad.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by 1hourRun
                    How many weights should RG climb to impress you? hes at four theres another (118) before reaching 122 if anyone should move up its the guy that hasnt ( Rigo ) -- and I can tell you dont know what P4P means by the first part of your reply.....that was the original concept ; all things as equal whos skill would overcome...the answer is clear to me.
                    RG is the same size as Rigo, why wouldn't he fight him if he beats him? You know well damn why.

                    Yeah and Pacquaio hasn't move more than RG, yet he is ancient and RG beats him cause he's lost a few times GTFO. Based on that ****** logic RG beats Thomas Hearns cause he got knocked out a few times. Let's face it you're ignorant.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by considerthis
                      P4p is not a lifetime achievement award...wlad is washed up, if chocolatito was 6'5 240lbs he'd dominate wlad.
                      No you can't make that claim cause if he were 6 5 and 240 he wouldn't be the same Chocolatico he is now.

                      This is not a video game you know

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