The golovkin/ward paradox

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  • bluebeam
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    #71
    Originally posted by Scott. Weiland
    Don't be too harsh he had a career defining fight versus Lemiuex and beat a welter at Middle. I feel he's top ten for the manner in which he has won against guys who've never been handled the way they have until he has destroyed them, I'd say he's top 5-6 if guys like Frampton are in there on the back of competitive fights versus guys of the stature of Cruz and Quigg.

    He's behind the likes of Rigo and Crawford imo.

    Rubio stopped lemeuix quicker than golovkin. So why even mention Lemieux as if that win meant anything?

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    • Mr.MojoRisin'
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      #72
      Nobody hates GGG we hate the fanboys. Those of you who try saying he is the best middleweight ever then say he beats Hagler because Hagler was robbed against a top contender and lost a decision to another top contender then went on to knock both of them out.

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      • Jewish-Reptile
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        #73
        Originally posted by bluebeam
        Rubio stopped lemeuix quicker than golovkin. So why even mention Lemieux as if that win meant anything?
        What makes you think I hold GGG's win over Lemieux in high regard ?

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        • frantic fighter
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          #74
          Originally posted by bigdramashow
          Golovkin- Fan friendly style, focuses on ensuring the fans enjoy his fights, explosive power and knockouts, takes punches he doesnt need to, clean fighter who doesnt foul, humble outside the ring, chases the top fighters who wont fight him.

          NSB opinion- most hated guy on the site

          Ward- Ugly style, win at all costs, no power and almost no knockouts at top level, no concern for entertaining the fans, has said in the past he shouldnt be expected to be in tough fights, repeatedly fouls, calls himself the son of god, has gone 5 years deliberately fighting people below his level, and actually had a fight lined up that was refused to be sanctioned due to the level of mismatch it was.

          NSB opinion- most popular guy on the site

          Seems strange to me that the fighter who is intent on entertaining the fans is liked least by people on here, but the fighter who doesnt give two ****s about the fans, is the most liked fighter on here? Can someone explain why this is cause it makes no sense to me?
          Their isn't a paradox here. You simply combined some subjective things with your own personal opinion and combined it all to form some incredibly flawed logic.

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          • bluebeam
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            #75
            Originally posted by Scott. Weiland
            What makes you think I hold GGG's win over Lemieux in high regard ?

            Because you called it a career defining win

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            • Kigali
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              #76
              Originally posted by bluebeam
              Because you called it a career defining win
              Got him........

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              • The Big Dunn
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                #77
                Haven't we had enough of the "I like GGG, I can't refute fair criticism about him so I'll pretend its black posters unfairly discriminating against him" threads?

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                • j0zef
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by bluebeam
                  Rubio stopped lemeuix quicker than golovkin. So why even mention Lemieux as if that win meant anything?
                  Why do you people keep bringing up Rubio? It's a pathetic argument that doesn't hold any water. Lemieux was 22 years old, with no amateur experience facing an old veteran. The current version of Lemieux would destroy that Rubio in 3 rounds. Manny Pacquaio also got KOd by some unknown dude when he was 21. Does anyone give a flying crap about it?

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                  • IMDAZED
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by j0zef
                    Why do you people keep bringing up Rubio? It's a pathetic argument that doesn't hold any water. Lemieux was 22 years old, with no amateur experience facing an old veteran. The current version of Lemieux would destroy that Rubio in 3 rounds. Manny Pacquaio also got KOd by some unknown dude when he was 21. Does anyone give a flying crap about it?
                    No, because of all the great wins Pacquiao had afterward. Lemieux falls just slightly short of that.

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                    • DLX
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                      #80
                      Golovkin Haters make the worst arguments, and are typically hypocritical. Ward hasn't fought anyone with a pulse in 4 years! His best win is Carl Froch! A guy whose style is taylor made for Ward. And is the same guy that said to avoid GGG like the plague and retired instead of cashing out with a career high pay day against GGG.

                      Ward gets credit for facing the best guy in his division. GGG is trying to do the same thing with Jacobs, and before that with Martinez and Quillin but they keep running. After this fight with Kovalev, win or lose Ward will go back to fighting bums like he has for the last 4 years.

                      People want GGG to move up now but there is no one that will beat him at 68, and the haters will just call them bums anyway. So he should stay the course and capture middle weight greatness. Smash Jacobs Saunders and Canelo and then take on the biggest names at 68 or 75.

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