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  • bojangles1987
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    #51
    Pac is a small, older fighter who doesn't chase KOs like he used to and has faced some very durable fighters. It's not something that really needs explaining.

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    • richardt
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      #52
      Originally posted by bambam182
      fighting smaller guy. bompton *****.
      Glad you finally learned that it doesn't take a big puncher to break an eye socket, etc.

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      • Dosumpthin
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        #53
        Originally posted by _Maxi
        He never used VADA. He took an IV before a fight, with a TUE 21 days later. Fishy as hell as Conte himself said.

        He said he was doing random all year testing, which is also false.

        He fooled a lot of people. He knew he was dirty and so was almost everyone else, so he wanted to make sure no one could dope while he could.
        Vada wasn't created until 2011. Floyd brought USADA IN 2009.

        Furthermore :

        Do you think it is wise for Floyd to use an unkown Nevada agency, help founded by Victor Conte, that has never performed a drug test....so he can save 50k?

        If he used an official wada signatory in USADA and still has naysayers like yourself, I don't think using VADA would help much.



        I don't recall Floyd saying he's doing year round testing. Please provide a source.




        Retro tues are within WADA guidelines and can be given for an IV rehydration. The tue application process takes time and must be completed by a physician. The only other option would be if the athlete knew he would be dehydrated weeks in advance....that's not practical.



        So what is the real reason you have a problem with floyd?



        Is it because he is 49-0? Rich? Beat your God manny? Or something else altogether?

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        • _Maxi
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          #54
          Originally posted by Dosumpthin
          Vada wasn't created until 2011. Floyd brought USADA IN 2009.

          Furthermore :

          Do you think it is wise for Floyd to use an unkown Nevada agency, help founded by Victor Conte, that has never performed a drug test....so he can save 50k?

          If he used an official wada signatory in USADA and still has naysayers like yourself, I don't think using VADA would help much.



          I don't recall Floyd saying he's doing year round testing. Please provide a source.




          Retro tues are within WADA guidelines and can be given for an IV rehydration. The tue application process takes time and must be completed by a physician. The only other option would be if the athlete knew he would be dehydrated weeks in advance....that's not practical.



          So what is the real reason you have a problem with floyd?



          Is it because he is 49-0? Rich? Beat your God manny? Or something else altogether?
          By 2013, 2014, VADA was way more reputed than USADA and had caught more fighters in proportion.

          And still is more reputed. That's why it's being used as the standard now.

          Floyd claimed he took an IV for dehydration, where:

          1) He passed the medical exam with no signs of dehydration.
          2) He said he only had to cut three pounds to make weight.
          3) He was drinking water after the weigh in.
          4) Drinking water is more effective than IV's for rehydration.

          The 21 days after TUE was fishy as hell. "It takes time" LMAO.

          You can't explain Floyd's muscle gain from 28 years old to 38 years old.

          What's my problem with him? I don't care if he's rich. He's never gonna be my role model, braging about his money and beating women. As a fighter he was excellent, a lot of things to learn from him. Everything after the Delahoya fight was pitiful. And to me it's obvious he took PEDs. The way he gained muscle in the later part of his career. His endurance. His blood transfusions... "Vampire facials" he said. He also said he doesn't know what EPO is. What a liar...

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          • Dosumpthin
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            #55
            Originally posted by _Maxi
            By 2013, 2014, VADA was way more reputed than USADA and had caught more fighters in proportion.

            And still is more reputed. That's why it's being used as the standard now
            .

            To whom? Lol. Hauser? Coney? Despite VADAs best attempt to slander USADA through the media with biased editorials - they never did land that UFC contract.

            VADA is a copy and paste agency that will only go as far as NSAC allows them. USADA is an official WADA signatory.





            Floyd claimed he took an IV for dehydration, where:

            1) He passed the medical exam with no signs of dehydration.
            2) He said he only had to cut three pounds to make weight.
            3) He was drinking water after the weigh in.
            4) Drinking water is more effective than IV's for rehydration.
            I guess you are implying Floyd used the IV to "mask". Floyd passed all drug test. All samples were CIR tested. USADA utilizes athelete biological passport to monitor athletes and can issue a doping violation of the values were distorted.

            Or are you impying Floyd cheated because he had extra vitamin c?



            The 21 days after TUE was fishy as hell. "It takes time" LMAO.
            Tue application approval is a lengthy process. Have you ever seen one?


            You can't explain Floyd's muscle gain from 28 years old to 38 years old.
            10 pounds? Lol.

            What's my problem with him? I don't care if he's rich. He's never gonna be my role model, braging about his money and beating women. As a fighter he was excellent, a lot of things to learn from him. Everything after the Delahoya fight was pitiful. And to me it's obvious he took PEDs. The way he gained muscle in the later part of his career. His endurance. His blood transfusions... "Vampire facials" he said. He also said he doesn't know what EPO is. What a liar...
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            Bragging about money? Beating women?
            That's what you mad?
            Do you know what a vampire facial is?
            PRP treatments are legal under WADA rules.

            Wtf are you crying about.

            Just admit it. You mad because he beat your hero. Hater. Lol.

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            • _Maxi
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              #56
              Originally posted by Dosumpthin
              .

              To whom? Lol. Hauser? Coney? Despite VADAs best attempt to slander USADA through the media with biased editorials - they never did land that UFC contract.

              VADA is a copy and paste agency that will only go as far as NSAC allows them. USADA is an official WADA signatory.







              I guess you are implying Floyd used the IV to "mask". Floyd passed all drug test. All samples were CIR tested. USADA utilizes athelete biological passport to monitor athletes and can issue a doping violation of the values were distorted.

              Or are you impying Floyd cheated because he had extra vitamin c?





              Tue application approval is a lengthy process. Have you ever seen one?




              10 pounds? Lol.

              .

              Bragging about money? Beating women?
              That's what you mad?
              Do you know what a vampire facial is?
              PRP treatments are legal under WADA rules.

              Wtf are you crying about.

              Just admit it. You mad because he beat your hero. Hater. Lol.
              You're garbage. I won't lose time with a liar like you. To be able to use a biological passport you need frecuent samples, all year round. Floyd is only giving samples one and half month before each fight. You are just so full of ****. Listen arrogant "I'm right because I am American" piece of trash, you don't fool me. Go play smart with someone else.

              And to finish, two things. I think Pacquiao beat him, and I dislike him long before the Pacquiao fight

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              • Dosumpthin
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                #57
                Originally posted by _Maxi
                You're garbage. I won't lose time with a liar like you. To be able to use a biological passport you need frecuent samples, all year round. Floyd is only giving samples one and half month before each fight. You are just so full of ****. Listen arrogant "I'm right because I am American" piece of trash, you don't fool me. Go play smart with someone else.

                And to finish, two things. I think Pacquiao beat him, and I dislike him long before the Pacquiao fight
                Instead of spreading false information you should've said "I don't like Floyd because of his national origin".


                *****.

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                • bambam182
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by richardt
                  Glad you finally learned that it doesn't take a big puncher to break an eye socket, etc.
                  in pacs case who is tiny as **** against a huge iron chin welter. pac was on roids, if not crack like he has admitted he has done, don't justify crack-tard.

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                  • richardt
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by bambam182
                    in pacs case who is tiny as **** against a huge iron chin welter. pac was on roids, if not crack like he has admitted he has done, don't justify crack-tard.
                    Not even you know what the FK you are saying.

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