When It's Clear You Ducked, Then It's an L (Forfeit)

[HeadShots]

Funny how you have an explanation/excuse for the one fight that GGG dodged.

You also forgot to mention that GGG ducked Lara!

once again u can't duck someone who isn't a mandatory, isn't a draw, never sent a legit offer and doesn't fight ur weight class.


like i said, Lara is ducking me. I called him out long time ago. he's running scared like a maricon

[IFightDirty]

The thing is GGG and Canelo are still active fighters so theres a chance they will fight, so its premature to chalk it up as an L for Canelo. I mean shoot for years people were giving Mayweather an L but then he won in real life against Pacquiao. Same thing with Sugar Ray Leonard and Hagler.

Also does it mean that Sugar Ray Robinson has L's against Herbert Lewis Hardwick aka Cocoa Kid and Charley Burley since he ducked them both?

[Combat Talk Radio]

Aaron Pryor turned down a fight with Ray Leonard.

Sure. But at the time, everyone claimed Leonard ducked him. To this day people think he ducked Pryor.

By the OP's logic, that's a loss for Leonard.

[Combat Talk Radio]

nope. check facts.


weed out the ones that were mandatory challengers

weed out the ones that dropped a belt

weed out the ones that had the agreement drawn up but couldn't sign.

So again, by your logic, Foreman beat Tyson?

Foreman was never mandatory.
Foreman didn't drop a belt, Tyson didn't drop a belt.
There was no agreement because Tyson refused to even consider the fight, straight to Don King's face when offered the fight. That's a duck.


By your logic, Jones beat Eubank?

Jones was never mandatory for Eubank.
Eubank never dropped a belt, Jones never dropped a belt.
There was no agreement because, as admitted by Eubank later, he flat out ducked the fight because he didn't think he could win.

I could go on and on. My point is, saying Fighter A beat Fighter B because Fighter B ducked Fighter A is broken logic.

[Raonic]

OP is an idiot if he thinks it's auto loss but he's got a point when he says GGG has gotten the short end of the stick with a lot of those guys not wanting to fight him when it could be made.

Ward didn't duck and Chavez was just uninterested in fighting in general but all the other guys have ducked or have made it more difficult than it needed to be.

[IronDanHamza]

Sure. But at the time, everyone claimed Leonard ducked him. To this day people think he ducked Pryor.

By the OP's logic, that's a loss for Leonard.

That's not true. At the time everyone didn't claim that.

That myth arose later on.

Either way it's irrelvant because he didn't duck him and it was Pryor who turned down the fight.

[Mammoth]

Golovkin wouldn't face bet's biggest draw! It would have done wonders for his career!

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[Szef]

[Combat Talk Radio]

That's not true. At the time everyone didn't claim that.

How soon we forget.

Hagler and Pryor had the same complaints about Leonard - he became a diva and was blatantly avoiding fights, kind of like Danny Garcia in a way.

He eventually fought Hagler but initially refused a rematch. Why? Because he would have lost.

He was playing games retiring and unretiring so he could avoid fighters. Pryor was one of them.

Back at that time, most every notable reporter thought he was ducking. Remember, wasn't no "interwebs" at that time.

It wasn't until later when it was revealed how bad shape Leonard physically was that people changed their mind.